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From: John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
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Subject: Re: Politicaly correct?
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 08:04:38 -0700
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:41:47 -0700, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:15:44 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>
>>On 3/30/24 17:37, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>> Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:04:38 +0100, jim whitby
>>>> <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is from an rss feed today.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, the IEEE Computer Society announced to members that, after
>>>>> April 1, it would no longer accept papers that include a frequently used
>>>>> image of a 1972 Playboy model named Lena Forsén. The so-called "Lenna
>>>>> image," (Forsén added an extra "n" to her name in her Playboy appearance
>>>>> to aid pronunciation) has been used in image processing research since
>>>>> 1973 and has attracted criticism for making some women feel unwelcome in
>>>>> the field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? What could possibly be demeaning about a (above the shoulders) female
>>>>> photo!
>>>>
>>>> The full photo is ahh ... fuller.
>>>>
>>>> .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Fors%C3%A9n>
>>>>
>>>> And she is famous in image processing.  I doubt that the IEEE can
>>>> change that.
>>>>
>>>> War story:  Maybe ten years ago, my wife and I took my 15-yo nephew to
>>>> Sweden, where I had lived and have friends.  We were walking through a
>>>> park near Stockholm's City Hall, where the grassy plaza is lined with
>>>> many bronze beauties in full glory.  My Swedish friend stopped at one
>>>> of the beauties and commented that the model for that particular
>>>> statue was the mother of one of his childhood friends.  Nephew was
>>>> floored.
>>> 
>>> There is a tendency to forget that beautiful women are just people like
>>> the rest of us.  A woman whom I knew as a folk dancer and the mother of
>>> two children once said to me: "If you wonder what I look like naked, go
>>> and see the statue in xxx Town Hall, I was the model for it.
>>
>>There is this attitude, especially in the US and muslim countries,
>>that nudity is reprehensible, more so than physical violence. This
>>is weird and borderline insane.
>
>Not here for sure. We have nude beaches and The Folsom Street Fair.
>People used to pay to see naked women but it's not such a novelty now.
>What restricts nudity is the climate. And if you go around naked,
>where do you keep your phone and your credit cards?
>
>I did once see the entire Ski Patrol come down the hill nude, skiing
>in a line, holding hands.

And practically every tribe on earth has covered their private parts
somehow, even before the missionaries showed up. Modesty is not a
Western or an American invention.