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From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:08:34 -0700, John Larkin
<jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2024 16:55:57 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:14:30 -0700, John Larkin
>><jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 May 2024 15:36:55 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> Wrote in
>>>> message:r
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Peima-Uw7wSee graph at 9:50 in.I see this a lot, engineers wanting to do complex stuff because it'samusing to them, when simple common-sense things would work and bedone.
>>>>
>>>>My current project requires iec62304  and it is amusing .
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Yikes. What does it cost to buy the standard? Does it reference other
>>>standards?
>>
>>It's 345 Swiss franks (USD 380).  Probably cites many things, so you
>>may need a bunch of these expensive standards.  
>>
>>It documents the now obsolete waterfall model of software development,
>>at great length, for medical devices.
>>
>>.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_62304>
>>
>>I've had to follow this approach (but not this standard), and it
>>didn't go well, because it didn't deal with practical constraints at
>>all.  The electronic-design parallel would be a process that requires
>>that a transistor with very specific properties exist and be
>>available.  But in the real world, we have to use the transistors that
>>are available, even if they are not perfect - make what you want from
>>what you can get.
>>
>>The solution was to design from the middle out, and when it all
>>settled down, document as if it were developed from the top down.
>>
>>Joe Gwinn
>
>That's the Microsoft Project Effect: the more tasks you define in a
>project, the longer it takes.

Can this be blamed on MS alone?  Doesn't "more tasks" mean "larger
scope"?  My plumber certainly thinks so.

Joe Gwinn