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Subject: Re: Can Jews be Nazis?
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On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:40:06 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 5/20/2024 9:57 AM, john larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 May 24 23:57:56 UTC, NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> BY STEPHEN F. EISENMAN
>>>
>>>
>>> For many people, the question is inflammatory. The crimes of the
>>> German Nazis were of such magnitude that comparison with any other
>>> historical violence is invidious. The genocide of the Jews was
>>> deliberate and methodical and intended to eliminate every last one.
>>> The goal was the same with the Romani and Sinti people. By comparison,
>>> the Israelis – currently accused of genocide — are rank amateurs. They
>>> have so far killed some 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza out of a
>>> population of 2.3 million.
>>>
>>> But the question, “Can Jews be Nazis?” is nevertheless important for
>>> challenging claims of moral inoculation by virtue of the Jewish
>>> experience of the Holocaust. If Israeli leaders are indeed committing
>>> a genocide in Gaza – as seems the case — they inhabit the same moral
>>> universe as the German Nazis, regardless of the suffering of past
>>> generations. In addition to the 35,000 killed, the war in Gaza has
>>> injured another 75,000 and displaced 2 million. Most of the victims
>>> are women and children – how can their deaths be justified? Israeli
>>> cabinet ministers, Knesset members, military personnel, and police
>>> have all freely spoken of their wish to force Palestinians into Egypt,
>>> establish Jewish-only settlements in Gaza, and even use an atomic bomb
>>> to kill everyone in the Gaza strip. (U.S. senator Lindsay Graham
>>> recently also suggested using a nuclear weapon against Gaza.)
>> 
>> 
>> At the end of WWII, German cities and industry were heaps of burnt
>> rubble, much worse than Gaza today. Half of Germany was occupied by
>> the USSR. About 6 million jews had been starved and gassed to death by
>> the nazis. About 100 million people died in WWII.
>> 
>> Israel wants to survive and is arguably doing what it must do to
>> survive. The bad guys aren't Israel, they are Iran and Hamas and the
>> many other savages, kidnappers, bombers, and rapists.
>> 
>> The extreme islamists want to kill all the jews and take their land.
>> The citizens of Israel of course object. Thay have atom bombs and
>> havedn't used them, even after the drons attacks from Iran.
>
>If heavily nuclear-armed nations still routinely feel in great danger of 
>their sovereignty and land being taken then it's hard to know what else 
>to do for them that could make them feel any safer.
>
>> Long-term, Israel can't allow Iran to have nukes, because they know
>> that Iran will use them on Israeli cities and welcome retaliation as
>> blessed martyrdom.

Exacrly.  What's scary is that the extremist islamists are eager for
martyrdom, especially somebody else's. The lunatics in Iran may think
that a nuclear exchange is worth it if it kills a lot of jews.


>
>Iran has probably noticed that no nuclear-armed state has ever been 
>conquered, it's unclear if Israel knows.
>


The Iranian leadership no doubt has nuke-proof tunnel complexes, built
at great expense. Strange how some people like to live underground.
Sounds nasty and stinky to me.