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Subject: Re: Quantum mystics
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 06:04:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sun, 9 Jun 2024 20:46:53 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <v44t6u$3n7fn$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>>I just watched a talk by Anton Zeilinger, professor of physics
>>at the university of Vienna, and 2022 Nobel laureate, about
>>quantum effects and entanglement.
>>
>>I feel a rant bubbling up!
>>
>>The guy is a mystic, a fraud! He pretended to demonstrate that
>>light consists of particles by showing a little box that starts
>>clicking, like a Geiger counter, when exposed to light. Even if
>>the little box really did detect light, that means nothing! Light
>>*detection* is quantized, yes, but that does not imply that light
>>itself is so too.
>>
>>He attempted to convince the public that entanglement means that
>>the results of measurements made at two remote places come out
>>identically, and without any time delay. That's just not true,
>>but he didn't even give a hint of how this really works. He did
>>not mention that you have to make *correlated* measurements to
>>detect entanglement. For that, you need to communicate *what*
>>measurement is to be made at each location, and that implies
>>that you either prescribe the exact measurement in advance or
>>select a subset of the results after the fact. Either way, this
>>skews the data.
>>
>>He's in it for the money and the fame. Grrr. And he's one of
>>many, too.
>>
>>Jeroen Belleman
>
>Agreed, so much quantum crap, almost like glowball worming sales...
>Perfessors, Albert the stone counter..
>This is nice and came close to the space filled with a fluid paper you gave a link to:
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/06/240606152154.htm
>  it is likely not 100% correct, but a fluid of femtoscopic black holes?
>
>In my school days I came across cases that were obviously wrong,
>I declined arguing with the teacher in the days before the exams..
>
>Entanglement
>Imagine you on the beach.
>You put a ball in the water, and a few meters away somebody else does the same.
>Mysteriously both balls go up and down at the same moment,
>'entangled'
>Wave crashing on the beach.
>There was an experiment recently where they had 2 detectors in the lab, meters away,
>connected by a mile of fiber.
>Photons were entangled...
>Well , in that beach experiment you can tie a wire a mile long between the balls and they still go up and down the same time.
>
>This is simplified, but the detection is then indeed quantified.
>I like to play with PMTs etc, do those perfessors know ANYTHING about the equipment they use?
>Or even DESIGNED anything ?

But photon entanglement can't be explained, or even thought about, in
classic-physics terms.

Nor can single-photon interferance.

Just accept and enjoy it.