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Subject: Re: Students go after the hypocrites
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On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
>> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
>>>>>> electronics design discussions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
>>>> designs?
>>>
>>>My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this
>>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design
>>>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
>> 
>> It was declining anyhow.
>
>I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 years 
>and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
>
>> I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
>> design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
>> I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask them
>> to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
>> 
>> 10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage
>> across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
>
>You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??

Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't
remember that equation."

A  fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project.

I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter
follower. Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that!


>
>> I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw 23
>> computer screens and one oscilloscope.
>
>Oh dear.
>
>> If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best.
>> 
>> It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
>> about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long to
>> find out if it does.
>
>My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this 
>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI, 
>this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace and 
>I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump doesn't 
>win come November.

There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right
fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less
tribalism and a little common sense.