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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Awfully quiet in here...
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:00:52 -0500, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/8/2024 4:10 PM, D wrote:
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>>=20
>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Paul S Person wrote:
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>>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:11:20 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 08:11:49 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
>>>>> <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/24 04:34, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anybody else out there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or has the disaster that is the USA meant that they've already=20
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> trucking people off to the ovens???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only a few message from James and one from Lynn - well, apart =
from=20
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> people/bots that I filter, that is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0Well they haven't come for me yet.=A0 However I =
twisted my ankle on
>>>>>> October 4 then on November 1 I walked too far and ended up in a
>>>>>> a fresh world of pain from the ankle. It is hard for me to read =
and
>>>>>> keep my foot elevated on an ice pack. I tend to fall asleep that
>>>>>> is and I have tp limit my time at the computer and doing chores.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's hoping your ankle heals soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0I am tired of responding to bigots of many persuasion =
who
>>>>>> rejoice in the appointment of a monarchial ruler by the people
>>>>>> who live in darkness of hate and fear.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't know what darkness and fear is.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Trump himself has said, they won't need to vote for him again, =
if
>>>>> only because of the term limit.
>>>>>
>>>>> But voting for him was their only value to him. And we know how =
Trump
>>>>> treats those he does not need.
>>>>>
>>>>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0But the thought police have not come for me yet.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, now the healing and rebuilding of the nation can start! =3D)
>>>
>>> As I noted in 2016 (not here but online elsewhere), at least with
>>> Trump we would get many legal questions answered. And so we have. No
>>> doubt this will continue.
>>>
>>> And I suppose it is possible that, freed from any obligation to his
>>> supporters since he cannot run again, he /might/ try healing and
>>> rebuilding. As opposed to dividing and destroying.
>>>
>>> One indicator might be if he actually pardons the Jan 6 folks. After
>>> all, not only can they do nothing for him in the future even with
>>> their right to vote restored, they failed in 2020. Why should he be
>>> grateful to failure?
>>>
>>=20
>> Let' see! It will be a very interesting 4 years for sure! I'm super=20
>> excited about his proposed 24h ukraine fix. Personally I think he has=20
>> underestimated the complexity of the situation, but regardless, will =
be=20
>> interesting to see his attempt.
>
>I don't understand how anyone thinks he could actually do that. His
>proposal, as I understand it, is basically to order Ukraine to
>surrender the land, people, and treasure that Putin has already
>stolen, disarm, and disavow ever joining NATO.
>
>Russia has to do nothing.
>
>Ukraine, and Europe, quite properly, would say 'Fuck that shit',
>and continue the fight without US aid. It would be hard, and
>expensive, but Russia is starting to run out of men and material,
>despite North Korean aid.
>
>Trump doesn't have sufficient leverage to stop the war.

While I agree with you that he can't stop the war that way, a couple
of well-placed nukes would pretty much take care of the problem. So I
would say he /could/ do it, although the price might be rather high.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"