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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: power shortages
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 16:01:56 GMT
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On a sunny day (Fri, 08 Mar 2024 07:09:39 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <ebamui94of6duifghmb6jnen11060l4dlv@4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 13:15:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100) it happened Jeroen Belleman
>><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <usela5$1jtre$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>>On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>>>>>
>>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>>>>> the dark.
>>>> 
>>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
>>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
>>>
>>>These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
>>>design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
>>>
>>>I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
>>>small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
>>>Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
>>>where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
>>>years.
>>
>>Yes, Russia has a ship with a nuclear power plant that powers some city somewhere,
>>no risk of flooding then :-)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power_station 
>>OTOH ever more power is needed, so a big nuclear power plant makes sense.
>
>Why not lots of smaller ones? They could be phased in incrementally,
>quickly, where and when needed.
>
>The politics are good. Do you want electricity? Find us a few acres
>for an SMR.

The more the harder security is.
Some idiots a few days ago did set fire to a HV mast in Germany to prevent Tesla from expanding there.
It also cut power to some other large company and caused shortages.
 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/business/tesla-germany-factory-fire.html
 
It would be cool if they got small fusion reactors working.
One for in each car?