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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Nex Benedict
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 09:42:00 -0400
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On 3/9/24 6:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 3/8/24 8:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <usgbfr$1vp6f$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/6/24 12:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <usa2h0$g16c$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/4/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2024 at 5:56:21 AM PST, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Republicans themselves said this is the most far reaching bill, and
>>>>>>> includes everything they've been asking for for 20 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The week Biden took office, he issued 94 executive orders to open the
>>>>>> border and stand down enforcement of immigration law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until Biden rescinds those EOs, any claims he makes that he wants to
>>>>>> address illegal immigration are nothing but lies.
>>>>
>>>>> So answer his question. What was in the bill that was bad?
>>>>
>>>> I already did an in-depth analysis of this abomination several weeks
>>>> ago, which you completely ignored and only responded to by insulting
>>>> Trump as per usual. Why should I do it all again just for you to ignore
>>>> it again?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, hell, hope springs eternal and it's easy to copy and paste so here
>>>> goes:
>>>>
>>>>> The Republicans got most of what they wanted and that still wasn't
>>>>> good enough
>>>>
>>>> Of course it wasn't good enough. And I don't know who you're referring
>>>> to specifically by 'the Republicans' but anyone who isn't a RINO got
>>>> next to nothing from this bill with regard to border security. And
>>>> that's being generous.
>>>>
>>>> Even as hundreds of thousands of illegals stream across the border 
>>>> every
>>>> month, including thousands of gang members recently kicked out of 
>>>> prison
>>>> in places like El Salvador, looking for a friendlier place to commit
>>>> their crimes, this 'border deal' would have done absolutely nothing to
>>>> secure the border.
>>>>
>>>> First, it's important to emphasize that no 'border deal' is 
>>>> necessary in
>>>> the first place. Under existing law, including the Immigration and
>>>> Nationality Act of 1952, the president of the United States has the
>>>> authority to turn every single illegal alien away at the border if he
>>>> determines it's necessary to safeguard the country, to include 
>>>> refugees.
>>>> There is no requirement that we entertain millions of fraudulent asylum
>>>> claims-- or even legitimate asylum claims, as rare as those may be.
>>>>
>>>> There is no legal requirement that we allow a single non-citizen into
>>>> this country. Period.
>>>>
>>>> All that's necessary to secure the border is for the president of the
>>>> United States to start doing his damn job and enforcing the law, to
>>>> start using the power that he *already* legitimately and
>>>> constitutionally has. It doesn't need to be complicated. We just 
>>>> need to
>>>> start enforcing existing laws as they stand.
>>>>
>>>> But if the White House actually adopted this simple and straightforward
>>>> solution, two things would happen:
>>>>
>>>> (1) The Democrat Party would lose out on millions of future loyal 
>>>> voters
>>>> once the next stage of their plan is implemented: the 'path to
>>>> citizenship' for all the illegals we let in and who now will be
>>>> described as leading an 'unfair' twilight existence in our society 
>>>> which
>>>> can only be solved by making them citizens. Democrats' longstanding
>>>> plans for demographic replacement at the polls would be stymied.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Congress would miss out on a chance to launder hundreds of millions
>>>> of dollars and Congress never misses out on an opportunity like that.
>>>>
>>>> So here we are.
>>>>
>>>> The bill proposed in the Senate would allocate another $60 billion
>>>> dollars in military aid to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel. (We
>>>> already give Israel billions every year-- what have they been doing 
>>>> with
>>>> that? Where has that money gone that we need to dump $14 billion 
>>>> more on
>>>> their doorstep?) That's a grand total of $74 billion going to secure 
>>>> the
>>>> borders of other countries. By comparison, the bill only allocates $20
>>>> billion for U.S. border security.
>>>>
>>>> So to restate for the slow kids in the back of the room: Our leaders 
>>>> are
>>>> proposing to spend roughly 400% more on securing the borders of two
>>>> other foreign countries than they are on securing the border of our own
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> And it gets worse. Because even the money that's supposedly going for
>>>> our border security will actually in practice only facilitate the entry
>>>> of millions of more illegal aliens into the U.S. Specifically, the bill
>>>> allocates $2.3 billion for something called "refugee and entry
>>>> assistance activities" by giving "grants or contracts to qualified
>>>> organizations and non-profit entities to provide culturally and
>>>> linguistically appropriate services, including housing, medical, and
>>>> legal assistance and ease management assistance". (Ease management
>>>> assistance? WTF? Why am I paying for that?) So that's more than two
>>>> billion dollars to the left-wing 'non-profit' organizations that exist
>>>> principally to find ways to sneak as many illegals into this country as
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> By doing so, this bill actually creates more incentives for illegals to
>>>> come here in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> One of the highlights of the bill is that it requires the Executive
>>>> Branch to close the border on an emergency basis if the number of
>>>> illegal entries exceeds 5000 in one week or 8500 in one day.
>>>>
>>>> Except the bill also gives Joe Biden the authority to waive this
>>>> emergency requirement at any time at his discretion. So of course it
>>>> will never be enforced. He and DHS Secretary Mayorkas could effectively
>>>> just ignore this entire section of the law if it were passed.
>>>>
>>>> The bill also doesn't count unaccompanied minors from countries other
>>>> than Mexico and Canada toward the totals necessary for border closings.
>>>> In other words, a significant percentage of illegals from Haiti, Cuba,
>>>> Honduras, Pakistan, China, etc. simply don't count. We could have 
>>>> 20,000
>>>> of those show up in one day and it wouldn't count.
>>>>
>>>> And on top of that, the bill doesn't *actually* close the border, even
>>>> if this fraudulent 5000-illegal threshold is reached. Per one of the
>>>> bill's co-authors, Senator Chris Murphy: "The bill contains a
>>>> requirement that the president funnel asylum claims to the land 
>>>> ports of
>>>> entry when more than 5000 people cross in a day. The border never 
>>>> closes
>>>> but claims must be processed at the ports."
>>>>
>>>> So basically even if these arbitrary numbers are reached, the border
>>>> never closes. The illegals are just re-directed to processing centers
>>>> where they are then let into the country. It's a complete scam by
>>>> design. And a scam that's designed to last for a long time, given the
>>>> bill's 3-year sunset provision. The idea being that if Trump does get
>>>> re-elected, he'd be bound by the terms of this deal and couldn't do
>>>> crazy things like ACTUALLY shut down the border and stop this
>>>> never-ending firehose of illegals.
>>>>
>>>> In one key respect, this bill would actually *lessen* the
>>>> already-minimal standards for allowing illegals into the country. Right
>>>> now, people applying for asylum need to show "a significant possibility
>>>> that they can establish a credible fear of persecution on the basis of
>>>> race, national origin, political beliefs, etc." Not a high standard. It
>>>> doesn't require them to provide any actual evidence of their claims.
>>>> Just make a claim, which they've been coached to say and which they've
>>>> rehearsed, and then get into the country. But this border bill would
>>>> lower that standard even further, if that's possible, from a
>>>> "significant" possibility of persecution to merely a "reasonable"
>>>> possibility of persecution. And reasonable is just another way of 
>>>> saying
>>>> 'plausible'. In other words, it's a bar that anyone from anywhere can
>>>> clear. There's no way that anyone claiming asylum will ever get turned
>>>> away if that's the standard.
>>>>
>>>> The bill is an abomination that makes the border *less* secure than it
>>>> already is, which is a remarkable feat that few, if any, people 
>>>> imagined
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