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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Alec Baldwin getting away with murder
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:42:45 -0400
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On 3/10/24 3:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uske60$307pd$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/8/24 10:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <usgcnh$2022l$3@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/7/24 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>>     moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/7/2024 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <usd4m9$17bvi$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Smithee <alms@last.inc>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/07/2024 01:42 PM, EGK wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:59:02 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> Classic example of shit rolling downhill and our two-tiered justice
>>>>>>>>> system. Baldwin is "loose" with weapons on the set and he fires the
>>>>>>>>> fatal shot but because he hired a young and very inexperienced
>>>>>>>>> armorer, she ends up being the perfect scapegoat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you watch the trial yesterday? She was quoted as saying she could
>>>>>>>> not be responsible for everyone on the set. Even tho it is her job to
>>>>>>>> be responsible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Baldwin should be held accountable, but he will likely walk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once upon a time, I spent an afternoon on the CSI:HORATIO set as a
>>>>>>> technical advisor (the episode dealt with counterfeit currency and they
>>>>>>> took none of my advice regarding how what they were doing wasn't
>>>>>>> accurate in any way), and in every scene with guns, as soon as they
>>>>>>> yelled cut, the armorer zipped in and took everyone's pistols and put
>>>>>>> them on a table over in the corner of the sound stage. He stood watch
>>>>>>> over them until the resets were done and they were ready to go again,
>>>>>>> then he handed them all back out again.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I do not know if there was a separate sunglass wrangler for David
>>>>>>> Caruso.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **The armorer guy went white as a sheet near the end of the day when it
>>>>>>> came to his attention that I'd been sitting on set all afternoon with
>>>>>>> an actual loaded handgun under my suit coat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on what I saw that day and how firearms are treated on set by a
>>>>>>> responsible armorer, Baldwin should never have been playing around with
>>>>>>> a gun outside of an actual filmed scene, and certainly shouldn't have
>>>>>>> been pointing it at people. What possible reason could he have had for
>>>>>>> pointing it at the director and the DP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was he not rehearsing a scene that called for him to point the gun at
>>>>>> the camera and then to "fire"? If he was, then I can buy that he did no
>>>>>> worse than most movie actors would've.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing the CSI folks had were dummy guns for such rehearsals. Big
>>>>> hunks of brightly-colored plastic that are shaped like handguns.
>>>>>
>>>>> E.g.:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.securityprousa.com/collections/training-guns
>>>>>
>>>>> They used those for rehearsals and only brought out the real guns for an
>>>>> actual take. Even in the actual take, only the people whose guns needed
>>>>> to cycle for realism were given real firearms. Everyone else had black
>>>>> painted gun replicas that were nothing but solid pieces of plastic. They
>>>>> looked real on camera but had no ability to shoot anything.
>>>>>
>>>> Then go and try THAT case, because it has nothing to do with THIS one.
>>>
>>> It shows that compared to other productions in the same industry, this
>>> movie was playing fast and loose with safety.
>>>
>> So prove that was Baldwin's fault.
> 
> Baldwin was the producer. The captain is responsible for his ship.
> 

Nope.  A producer isn't a captain, and they HAVE people on set who have 
that responsibility already.

That's why the AD pled out and the armorer was convicted.  All that is 
GOOD for Baldwin.

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