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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: OT: Question for Anim
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 08:37:28 -0700
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On 3/12/2024 12:02 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 3/11/2024 9:06 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> Anim, as someone who has worked in the TV/Film industry I'd like your
>>>> serious opinion on something.  Elsewhere I'm involved in a discussion
>>>> where we are wondering how Apple can get away with the prices it charges
>>>> and is there anything it actually does better than a high-end PC.
>>>> Someone suggested video and audio (music) work.
>>>>
>>>> So my question is what would you use now for video and/or FX work?  And
>>>> why please?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I’ve been retired for a few years now and just doing consulting and
>>> kibitzing so I really can’t speak to what I would use if I were going to
>>> start over.
>>>
>>> But in my day, the people that actually did the work did it on Macs or
>>> Linux and the people who thought they did the work, but were  just in the
>>> way used windows.
>>>
>>> There’s a school of thought that “cheaper is better“ regardless of anything
>>> else. And those are the people that always wanted us to use windows. They
>>> would buy a PC for $1000 and say see this is way better than your Mac that
>>> cost 1500 but then they would have to go out and add a whole bunch of stuff
>>> to it and end up out of pocket $2000 and still not have half the computer
>>> the Apple guys did.
>>>
>>> Compare this thinking to beta versus VHS. There’s absolutely no doubt Beta
>>> was better in every measurable capacity, but VHS was better at promotion
>>> and underhanded pricing deals. So it won.
>>>
>> I thought it was because Betamax wouldn't allow their format to be used
>> for porn.
> 
> No. At the time, a good friend of mine was working at Fred rated and took
> me through the store and showed me how all the various spiffs (perks and
> kickbacks) worked which I found really interesting. For instance, if they
> could get you to buy a knock off Walkman instead of a namebrand Sony
> Walkman the salesman got $7.50 on a $50 sale. A pair of Panasonic D
> batteries would get you $.50 all by themselves!
> 
> Sony with the Japanese mindset had a really different incentive plan than
> Americans are used to. They paid kickbacks on the beta units, but only once
> a year at Christmas/New Year’s. Meanwhile the VHS units paid kickbacks at
> the time of sale. So would you rather get 50 bucks now for convincing me to
> buy a VHS or take your chance that you were still going to be at the store
> at the end of the year and get a lot more money in one lump?
> 
> So the salesmen are telling all the customers to get VHS based entirely on
> the kickback, not the actual performance of the unit.  Guess what sold
> best?
> 
Ah, that sounds familiar.  I may have heard that before but forgot.

I still think porn had something to do with it though.  ;)

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