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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Inconvenient lefties
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:25:23 -0000 (UTC)
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>Last Friday, a Chicago alderman (there are cockroaches with higher social
>>standing) gave a speech at a rally outside city hall condemning Biden
>>and support for Israel in the war against Hamas. A veteran had burned a
>>special American flag

>Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech, but if you 
>burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get arrested for a hate 
>crime?

You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag.

In any event, a person of a specific nationality (or perception of
a specific nationality) is in a protected class in some hate crime
enhancements. Let's say the flag being burnt was flown on a flagpole
outside an individual's house who also had a Stand With Israel lawn
sign. The protestor objected to Biden's pro-Israel stance in the war
against Hamas. If the victim's flag is burned as part of a campaign of
harrassment, then yes, it can be argued that he's been subject to a hate
crime because he refuses to question his own government's foreign
relations.

I can see a hate crime enhancement for that although it might be
difficult to prove unless the criminal said something along the lines
that he denounces the victim for not rejecting his country.

I disagree with you.

>>part of the protest, and there were signs protesting that the Democratic
>>National Convention (to nominate the president) is being held in Chicago.

>>The alderman gave his speech in front of the burnt flag. There's plenty
>>of video showing the flag lying on the pavement next to the alderman.

>>When the videos were shown and other aldermen expressed horror, he
>>started denying that he'd given the speech in front of the flag 'cuz
>>gaslighting always works.

>They literally deny reality right in front of you and expect you to 
>believe it.

Voters in my state do believe!