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On 3/27/2024 4:03 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>> Tim Illingworth <tim@smofs.org> wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains.  Russia has
>>>> been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.
>>
>>> December 1814 not count?
>>
>> I think you mean August of that year.  More recently there was an
>> invasion of Pennsylvania in June and July 1863.
> 
> 1814 definitely counts, although we really needed a new capitol building
> anyway.
> 
> The 1863 invasion is kind of a special case because it depends on whether
> you define the invaders as US citizens or not.  Since the war was about
> who was a citizen and who wasn't, and the US won, I think it fair to define
> them as rebellious citizens.  My Confederate-supporting high school history
> teacher would not do so, however.
> 
>> Some might also count January 2021.  Is it an invasion of all
>> participants were US citizens?  One person there was carrying the
>> flag of the nation (not US state) of Georgia, though he was probably
>> just confused.
> 
> Does not count, for the same reason that 1863 unpleasantness doesn't.

Agreed, insurrection is not invasion.

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