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From: Anton Ray Eaks <tony@the.trailer.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Semen On The Trailer Park Pissbum
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 13:14:48 -0400
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Ted wrote:
> % wrote:
>> Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <MPG.40789974c90781c6989796@news.usenetexpress.com>,
>>> skeeter@hotmale.com says...
>>>>
>>>> In article <jSnPN.762250$xHn7.115534@fx14.iad>, ted.street@gmail.com
>>>> Ted says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <17c2dc96aff8594a$169751$3716115
>>>>>> $22dd286e@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <660d9859$0$3711207$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> skeeterweed@photonmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <uuhjee$3ruce$1@i2pn2.org>, ted.road@qmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <MPG.40749778856be9bb98978d@news.usenetexpress.com>, >>>>>
>>>>>>> skeeter@hotmale.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <17c22d00da46064a$96254$3081049$72dd786b@news.thecubenet.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> precent@yohoo.not says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <%SjON.762036$p%Mb.11195@fx15.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>> ted.street@gmail.com >>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David LaRue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:wjhON.99871$24ld.78660@fx07.iad:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice of Authority wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Why did the Romans crucify Jesus?  Because he
>>>>>>> had >>>> become >>>>>>>>>>>>    too woke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1774230983350362304>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        --bks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was also a Communist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus of Nazareth is a figure who is often emulated
>>>>>>>>>>> for his >>>>>>>>>> emphasis on kindness, mercy and love, but
>>>>>>> many >>>> of his >>>>>>> disciples >> > seem to miss a very large
>>>>>>> part of >>>> his teachings in >>>>>>> their attempts >> > to mimic
>>>>>>> his virtues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Many of Jesusâ?? ideas would be considered
>>>>>>>>>>> controversial in >>>>>>> the >> > modern world, but his
>>>>>>> attitudes >>>> regarding economics >>>>>>> would be >> > especially
>>>>>>> radical, >>>> aligning less with the >>>>>>> conservative views of
>>>>>>>>>> many of >>>> his followers and more with >>>>>>> the far-left
>>>>>>> views we now >>>> call >> > communist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, the mainstream interpretations of Jesusâ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy seem >> > to ignore or undermine his economic
>>>>>>>>>>> ideals, >>>>>>> most often in the >> > interest of preserving
>>>>>>>>>>> capitalism.  >>>>>>> American history has given us >> > many
>>>>>>>>>>> examples of Biblical >>>>>>> interpretations being used to
>>>>>>> excuse >>>>>>> harmful institutions >>>>>>> such as slavery and
>>>>>>> attempt to >>>> de-radicalize >> > the image of >>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>> figures such as >>>> Martin Luther King Jr. It is >> > only >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> responsible that >>>> we separate Jesusâ??  relationship with money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>> that of any churches who stand to profit
>>>>>>> financially from >>>>>>> >>>> more >> > capitalist interpretations
>>>>>>> of his words.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We can read stories about
>>>>>>> Jesusâ?? emphasis on >>>> communal >>>>>>> practices, >> > like
>>>>>>> sharing meals and labor and >>>> starting the >>>>>>> tradition now
>>>>>>>>>> referred to as >>>> â??communion.â? We can also see >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that he has a >> > >>>> particular interest in the needs of people
>>>>>>> who >>>>>>> his >>>> society would >> > rather abandon such as
>>>>>>> women who had >>>>>>> >>>> committed adultery and those >> > with
>>>>>>> leprosy or physical >>>>>>>>>>> disabilities.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> tells his followers to >>>> forgive their debtors, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> > not store up >>>> treasures on earth and that
>>>>>>> they cannot >>>>>>> serve both God >> >>>>> and money. In Matthew
>>>>>>> 21, he becomes so >>>>>>> enraged by >>>> people using a >> >
>>>>>>> temple for economic exchange, he >>>>>>> >>>> starts flipping
>>>>>>> tables.  >> > >>>>>>>>>> In Matthew 19, a rich >>>> man approaches
>>>>>>> him for instruction and >>>>>>> Jesus >> > tells >>>> him to give
>>>>>>> up all his possessions and give the >>>>>>> money to >>>> the >> >
>>>>>>> poor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      â??It is easier for a camel to go through the eye
>>>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>> needle than >> > for someone who is rich to enter
>>>>>>>>>>> the Kingdom of >>>>>>> God,� Jesus said in >> > Matthew 19:24
>>>>>>>>>>> NIV.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      This notion that a rich person would have to stop
>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>> rich in >> > order to follow him is explicitly
>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible with >>>>>>> capitalist >> > thinking. Why make
>>>>>>>>>>> people choose between >>>>>>> following him and pursuing >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> wealth unless he dislikes the >>>>>>> effects of wealth and
>>>>>>> hopes >>>> to >> > counteract them in some way >>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> encouraging an >>>> alternative lifestyle >> > among his followers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Despite the context and direct nature of his
>>>>>>>>>>> statement, it >>>>>>> seems >> > to be interpreted quite
>>>>>>>>>>> differently by many wealthy and >>>>>>> influential >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Christians who have yet to give up their >>>>>>> possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Under capitalism, interpretations favored by
>>>>>>> rich >>>> people are >>>>>>> given >> > more of a platform. This has
>>>>>>>>>>> created the exact type of >>>>>>> hierarchy >> > among Jesusâ??
>>>>>>>>>>> fans that he devoted so much time to >>>>>>> warning against.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His attempts to redistribute power are >>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>>>>> downplayed, and this >> > is interpreted instead as a story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how nobody is perfect.  >> > >>>>>>>>>>    SIUE is
>>>>>>>>>>> home to a large Christian population, including 20 >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christian organizations, whose members I sincerely hope will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid >> > such a convenient dismissal of this issue.
>>>>>>> All >>>> of us at >>>>>>> SIUE, >> > Christian or otherwise, should
>>>>>>>>>>> question the >>>>>>> motivations of our >> > sources.
>>>>>>> Information >>>> is never presented >>>>>>> without an agenda, and
>>>>>>> it >> > is >>>> alarmingly common for >>>>>>> information to be
>>>>>>> presented in >>>> deceitful >> > ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      An idea as simple as â??love your neighborsâ?
>>>>>>> can >>>> be used >>>>>>> to promote >> > the exact opposite
>>>>>>> message. I >>>> hope that any >>>>>>> readers seeking to >> >
>>>>>>> understand Jesusâ??  >>>> words will think >>>>>>> critically about
>>>>>>> their own >> > >>>> ideologies as well and whether >>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> align more closely >>>> with the >> > whitewashed commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version that grants >>>> wishes or the radical >> >
>>>>>>> political figure >>>>>>> portrayed in >>>> the Bible.  >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody reads anything this long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. In fact, the motivation is not to even start
>>>>>>>>>>> reading >>>>>>>> it.  Very brief posts, otoh, almost always get
>>>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus (and God) taught those that were willing to learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you were unwilling to read a few words, let alone
>>>>>>>>>>> books, how do >>>>>>> you hope to learn what was being taught?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus and the New Testament were needed because of the
>>>>>>>>>>> many that >>>>>>> were unwilling to learn and follow the simple
>>>>>>>>>>> rules of the Old >>>>>>> Testament.  He wants you to understand
>>>>>>>>>>> and follow him.  It is >>>>>>> your choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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