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From: suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com>
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Subject: Re: Mail-In Voting
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:30:21 -0700
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On 4/10/2024 12:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>> On 4/10/2024 9:52 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/9/2024 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:07:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> Or making the voter go back to their home state and get an original
>>>>>>>> birth certificate - meaning it takes time and money to meet the
>>>>>>>> requirements.
> 
>>>>>>> No DMV requires you to do that to get a driver license or ID card.
> 
>>>>>> I've had to renew mine within the past year and the _ONLY_ ID I was
>>>>>> required to show was the about to be retired licence.
> 
>>>>> Fred Phelps was lying. You were required to show your birth certificate
>>>>> when you obtained your initial driver's license. Yes, if you renew an
>>>>> unexpired driver's license, they don't force you to go through all the
>>>>> initial identification steps. I had to repeat the initial identification
>>>>> steps last time I renewed because I obtained REAL ID.
> 
>>>> If you move to a different state, sometimes you have to show your birth
>>>> certificate as well as the current DL from the old state. Often they
>>>> mark the old license Invalid, and let you keep it as backup ID. You're
>>>> justnot legal to drive with it.
> 
>>> I would never do that. I'd go through the process of obtaining a license
>>> as a new driver, which means taking the driving and written tests. I
>>> don't need one state to do me the "favor" of informing another state
>>> that I moved.
> 
>> I did have to take the written tests in the new states. Which part would
>> you not do, and which part informs another state?
> 
> Tell the clerk "I want to be licensed as a brand-new driver and I'm hear
> to take the driving test." Then surrendering your existing license and
> informing the other state won't happen. If they mark the old license as
> "invalid", you are going to have a difficult time using it as
> identification especially if you are still a part-year resident of the
> other state.

Isn't it still a picture ID, even though it's not valid for driving?

> Of course, if you've converted to REAL ID, then they'll look you up on
> the Homeland Security database, which recognizes just one primary
> residence at a time.
> 
They weren't at the time, and the REAL ID license I have now is only 2 
years old.

>>> I may not have moved. I might live part time in one state and part time
>>> in the other state, which means I always want to retain ID from both
>>> states.
> 
>> I don't think they allow you, unless you're a college student. But you
>> might have to have valid licenses in both states. The ones from my old
>> state were expiring soon anyway, I just didn't get a DL right away on
>> moving to the new state.
> 
> In that case if it expired, you can say legitimately that you don't have
> a valid driver's license from another state!
> 
I got the new licenses (I moved several times) just before they expired, 
not after. Because I would have had to take the driving test for sure.