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From: The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:11:19 -0700
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On 4/18/24 3:46 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-04-18 19:13:09 +0000, The Real Bev said:
>> On 4/18/24 2:11 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-18 08:20, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/24 10:18 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-04-17 10:05, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/24 11:48 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence". Its weaknes=
s.
>>>>>>> Billions of people are quite capable of not becoming a victim wit=
hout
>>>>>>> needing guns for "self-defence".
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Yes, screaming I AM NOT A VICTIM at the thug with a knife will >>>=
>=20
>>>>>> definitely send him on his way abashed and save Granny from being =
>>>>=20
>>>>>> harmed. Or perhaps you were thinking of the umbrella with the >>>>=
=20
>>>>>> sharpened tip?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> You still haven't explained why the US has so many more deaths than=

>>>>> other countries similar to it.
>>>>>> I have no idea why.=A0 Do you?=A0 Perhaps we are just violent peop=
le.
>>>>>> Given that this is true, how do we best protect ourselves when law=
 >>=20
>>>>>> enforcement is too far away to be protective?
>>>> The same way as other countries do: by banning weapons. You do not l=
et
>>> violent people easy access to weapons.
>>=20
>> Like Mexico...
>>=20
>> Knives, rebar, baseball bats, tennis rackets, 2x4s...
>=20
> With the possible exception of the cars, all of those personal
> 'weapons' are impossible to use to kill and injure lots of people in a
> short space of time ... unlike a moron with a (semi)automatic gun
> spraying bullets around.

Black swan event.  Other ways of mass killing that don't involve guns.=20
Some think that the Islamist anti-Westerners have already won just=20
because they made us change the way we live, travel etc.

>>>> A few nights ago a guy pulled a knife on a woman, forced her to driv=
e=20
>>>> to >> a different location and raped her.=A0 This happened a few blo=
cks=20
>>>> away. >> What should she have done?
>>>> Same as in any modern and evolved country.
>>=20
>> Bend over and smile?
>>=20
>> She was sitting in her car in a restaurant parking lot at 8:30 at nigh=
t=20
>> in a "safe" neighborhood.  He jumped into her car.  Perhaps she should=
=20
>> have locked her doors, but that's alien behavior here.
>=20
> A lot of common sense things are alien behaviour in America: owning
> guns, not wearing seatbelts, electing lunatics as the President, not
> knowing how to spell the words like "colour" or "aluminium", ...  :-\

The Swiss and possibly the Israelis are required to own guns.  That's=20
not the problem.  I think we USE seatbelts most of the time.  And if you =

mean Trump, there's a lot to be said about having a loose cannon for a=20
president.  A little less trouble in the world during his tenure,=20
wouldn't you say?  And we've simplified spelling in order to conserve=20
ink, space and pixels.  A GOOD thing!

>> If someone threatens you with ANY weapon they have forfeited their=20
>> right to decent treatment.  Perhaps no weapon is required if they are =

>> physically threatening.  We should all be allowed to protect our own=20
>> lives.  Period.
>=20
> The number of people who successfully "protect their own lives" by
> owning a gun is FAR FAR FAR outweighed by the number of innocent people=

> killed or seriuously injured by a looney with a gun.
>=20
> You've got junior school kids "solving" their arguments by shooting
> people. The country needs to obtain some form of common sense.

Far fewer mass shootings by loonies than one-on-one or gang squabbles.=20
If it weren't for the innocent bystanders, the gang squabbles might=20
actually be a plus.

Mainly, I think our elected officials are too stupid or venal to be=20
allowed to even think about changing the Constitution.

--=20
Cheers, Bev
     "...so she told me it was either her or the ham radio, over."