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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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On 2024-04-19 14:03, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-15 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-14 20:06, Anonymous wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer or business partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  - 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screwing someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally 
>>>>>>>>>> wrong? You've
>>>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually 
>>>>>>>>>> assaulted one
>>>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, 
>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated 
>>>>>>>> well by the
>>>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the 
>>>>>>> truth. LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly—in your humble opinion—"happened" to Harvey Weinstein?
>>>
>>> Why should some slut be allowed to go to the authorities after YEARS
>>> AND YEARS and cry "rape"?
>>
>> Why should he be allowed to get away with it even if it's been years?
>>
>>>
>>>>>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds 
>>>>>> like you'd
>>>>>> prefer the wild west.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and 
>>>>>>>>>>> proscribe
>>>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to 
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone or
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable 
>>>>>>> men, for one,
>>>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society 
>>>>>> there's no
>>>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to 
>>>>>> be men.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When everyone is carrying a gun
>>>>>
>>>>> But not everyone carries a gun.
>>>>
>>>> The simple fact is:
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg>
>>>>
>>>> Deal with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think that someone is more dead after having been shot with a
>>> gun?
>>>
>>> And why the focus on the "developed world"?
>>
>> Because those countries are similar to the US in terms of wealth, 
>> social development, etc.
>>
>>
>>> Mexico has fierce gun laws
>>> and a much higher murder rate.
>> And there is a lot more poverty in Mexico.
>>
> 
> Poverty doesn't cause crime.

Poverty leads to desperation, and desperate people do what they need to 
do to survive.