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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than
 Android when RCS messaging is involved
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 00:14:41 -0000 (UTC)
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Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've
>>>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted one
>>>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially
>>>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the
>>>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>>> 
>>>> He got what he deserved. Maybe you want to join him?
>>> 
>>> No he didn't. Maybe you should be rape hoaxed.
>> 
>> You're getting incoherent. Are the drugs wearing off?
>> 
>>>>>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds like you'd
>>>>>> prefer the wild west.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
>>>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one,
>>>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society there's no
>>>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to be men.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
>>>> 
>>>> No one needs vigilantes.
>>> 
>>> Self-defense is not vigilantism.
>> 
>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence". 
> 
> Yes it is.

Nope. It's a pre-meditated act. You're armed with the intention to harm.