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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 11:15:42 -0000 (UTC)
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Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer or business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  -  in most civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've
>>>>>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually assaulted one
>>>>>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially
>>>>>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the
>>>>>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He got what he deserved. Maybe you want to join him?
>>>>> 
>>>>> No he didn't. Maybe you should be rape hoaxed.
>>>> 
>>>> You're getting incoherent. Are the drugs wearing off?
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds like you'd
>>>>>>>> prefer the wild west.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one,
>>>>>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society there's no
>>>>>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to be men.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No one needs vigilantes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Self-defense is not vigilantism.
>>>> 
>>>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence".
>>> 
>>> Yes it is.
>> 
>> Nope. It's a pre-meditated act. You're armed with the intention to harm.
>> 
> 
> Those in the United States who lawfully carry a concealed handgun
> hope they never need to use it, but want to be prepared for that
> eventuality.

Why? I've been to the US. It isn't as lawless you make out. 

As a visitor I'm more worried about getting caught in cross-fire than
actually being a victim of crime.