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Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook
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On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>
>>>>   BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>   
>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>
>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?
>>>
>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
>>> her own hood.
>>
>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their
>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec
>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".
>>
>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a
>> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him
>> say it?
> 
> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
> Palestine!"
> 
>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you
>> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if
>> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a
>> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does
>> that accomplish? What's the point?
> 
> The clicks are all that matters.
> 
>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into
>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say
>> "black lives matter".
> 
> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.
> 
>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It
>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must*
>> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.
>>
>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you.
>> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over
>> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've
>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence
>> of the power they wield.
> 
> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
> war.

I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists". 
Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering 
and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".