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On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:

> On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>> 
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
>>>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>> 
>>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?
>>>> 
>>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
>>>> her own hood.
>>> 
>>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their
>>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec
>>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".
>>> 
>>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a
>>> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him
>>> say it?
>> 
>> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
>> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
>> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
>> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
>> Palestine!"
>> 
>>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you
>>> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if
>>> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
>>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a
>>> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does
>>> that accomplish? What's the point?
>> 
>> The clicks are all that matters.
>> 
>>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into
>>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say
>>> "black lives matter".
>> 
>> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
>> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
>> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
>> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.
>> 
>>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It
>>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must*
>>> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.
>>> 
>>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you.
>>> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over
>>> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've
>>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence
>>> of the power they wield.
>> 
>> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
>> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
>> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
>> war.
> 
> I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".

I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing 
"ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

> Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering 
> and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".