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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Criticism of Anti-Defamation League
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:13:05 -0000 (UTC)
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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>In compiling reports that demonstrate that anti-Semitism has been
>>increasing throughout American society, Anti-Defamation League changed
>>its methodology for statistical reporting. Expressions of support for
>>Hamas have been counted in hate crime data as anti-Semitism since
>>October 7, 2023.

>Do they at least break out the individual types of acts so you can see
>how many reports of hateful speech are included.

I haven't read them.

>>I don't follow these reports and I don't know how hateful speech is
>>being linked to vandalism, arson, violence, or even terrorism and if
>>they are counting speech incidents alone without a criminal act.

>>Note to moviePig: Speech without the criminal acts I named or without a
>>threat is... speech. The 14th and 1/2 Amendment be damned.

>No,no. Any speech that I don't like is clearly a criminal act. It
>shows the potential for a threat and therefore must be treated as a
>threat. Free speech is dead. Unless it is by me or those I approve of.

>>ADL has been criticized by extremism researchers for changing their
>>methodoly. Nevertheless, the researcher interviewed had also found,
>>using older methods, that anti-Semitism increased. ADL wasn't wrong.

>Of course it has increased. That said you shouldn't murky the waters
>by changing the methodology in such an obvious ploy to increase the
>reported numbers of anti-Semitism. People who see that ploy will
>discount everything they say.

To defend ADL, who would have thought of measuring pro-Hamas speech in
America before October 7?

>>Let's think about this for a moment. Is there a way to support Hamas in
>>a way that isn't an expression of hatred, that isn't supporting
>>terrorism, that isn't supporting their extreme religious views that led
>>them to create a situation in which 10s of thousands of their own people
>>would get slaughtered by the enemy?

>>If it weren't Hamas doing it, the whold rest of the world would have
>>condemned the use of human shields as a war crime. Instead, the killing
>>of human shields as collateral damage in military operations has been
>>labeled as Jews committing war crimes and genocide.

>>Unpacking the truth of antisemitism on college campuses
>>April 25, 20245:57 PM ET
>>Heard on All Things Considered
>>https://www.npr.org/2024/04/25/1247253244/unpacking-the-truth-of-antisemitism-on-college-campuses
>>By Odette Yousef, Lisa Hagen
>>NPR