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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to
 arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 10:24:53 -0400
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On 5/1/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v0thkh$36om8$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/30/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 2024 at 6:10:38 AM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler"
>>> <dtravel@sonic.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/30/2024 1:23 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>    Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:14:19 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman
>>>>>>    <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>>>>    
>>>>>>> It looked like Arizona was going to stand up for property owners
>>>>>>> dealing with trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants that police
>>>>>>> won't arrest. But the governor vetoed the bill.
>>>>>    
>>>>>>> If it had become law, police could have immediately removed these
>>>>>>> fake tenants.
>>>>>    
>>>>>>> The governor claimed it "fails to leverage existing legal mechanisms,
>>>>>>> respect the due process rights of lawful tenants, and minimize
>>>>>>> unintended consequences such as for victims of domestic violence."
>>>>>    
>>>>>>> The bill's sponsor said it did not affect existing landlord-tenant
>>>>>>> law, and it exempted family members and those agreeing to co-habitate.
>>>>>    
>>>>>> What the heck do issues of domestic violence have to do with squatters
>>>>>> moving in when the homeowner is away and refusing to vamoose in near
>>>>>> record time when found out?
>>>>>    
>>>>> Let's be more precise with language. Someone falsely claiming to be a
>>>>> tenant is not a squatter. Squatting has to do with hostile encroachment
>>>>> upon abandoned land. A homeowner temporarily away has not abandoned his
>>>>> land. These are trespassers.
>>>>>    
>>>>>> If >I< were Governor I'd work towards instant eviction along with
>>>>>> award of damages as soon as an injuction were obtained and i would
>>>>>> order application for such injunctions get ultra-high priority in
>>>>>> court scheduling. (I'd be satisfied with 2-3 hour turnaround - and
>>>>>> DEFINITELY not 4-6 weeks as I've heard of in some jurisdictions)
>>>>>    
>>>> ROFLMAO. You have no clue how the courts actually work.
>>>
>>> Courts enforce the law. Change the law and the courts have no choice
>>> but to comply with it.
> 
>> Courts don't enforce the law. You're supposed to be a LAWYER, for
>> fuck's sake. Ask USCourts.gov.
>>
>>> The federal judiciary operates separately from the executive and
>>> legislative branches, but often works with them as the Constitution
>>> requires. Federal laws are passed by Congress and signed by the president.
>>> The judicial branch decides the constitutionality of federal laws and
>>> resolves other disputes about federal laws. However, judges depend on our
>>> government's executive branch to enforce court decisions.
> 
> And here Effa uses one of his favorite "change the subject" tactics,
> hoping no one will notice and he'll score a win on Usenet today.
> 
> Everything he cited references the federal courts when the federal
> courts have nothing to do with state landlord/tenant law. His entire
> response is an irrelevancy.
> 
> Nothing he wrote above changes the fact that if the Arizona legislature
> changed the law and gave citizens the right to summarily eject
> squatters, a state court would apply that law to any case coming before
> it.
> 


Courts don't enforce laws, counselor.  Any garden variety idiot knows 
that... but you.

You call yourself a lawyer and a LEO, and you don't know that?

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