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Subject: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500
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On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> 
>> On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is NOT about bicycles.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, an accurate statement from Tom!
>>>>> No one likes a Cassandra or listens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people,
>>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the
>>>>> government jab?
>>>>
>>>> Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical
>>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical
>>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic
>>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention.
>>>>
>>>> -- - Frank Krygowski
>>> Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the
>>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED.
>>
>> ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny
>> percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction?
>>
>> Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you
>> never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and
>> ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the
>> experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that
>> grocers are trying to kill us.
> 
> Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the
> benefits.  The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for
> babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or
> actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits.  The decision to try to
> force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical
> judgement, other considerations took precedence.
> 
>>> My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately
>>
>> That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come
>> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before -
>> that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't
>> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't
>> cause the cancer?
>>
>>> She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you?
>>
>> I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I
>> had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger
>> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many
>> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover,
>> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous"
>> survival, complete with large photo.
> 
> Those ventilators were killers.  Seriously, they were not a good idea,
> and were not at all good for patients.  Initially many medical people
> thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the
> Devil with the patients.
> 
>>> You believe that the government is always correct.
>>
>> Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your
>> own deluded fiction.
>>
>> However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against
>> whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy
>> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development.
>>
>> Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be
>> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom.
> 
> Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his
> refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well
> on him.  It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her
> position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the
> nose.

+1
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Andrew Muzi
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