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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: A fresh take on the Star Wars films
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 19:06:45 -0400
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On 5/10/2024 5:42 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 5/10/2024 4:03 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 5:45 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/24 3:04 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/7/2024 2:58 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 May 2024 13:33:28 -0400
>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2024 11:23 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A friend send me a link to this video today and it seemed to be very
>>>>>>>>> appropriate for this newsgroup so I'm posting it here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnEIDUXSULI [11 minutes]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd never thought of Star Wars as essentially being a silent film
>>>>>>>>> with music replacing dialog but the presenter makes a reasonably
>>>>>>>>> strong case for his argument. There are clips of interviews with
>>>>>>>>> John Williams giving his thoughts as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Dialogue'.  Heh...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this your idea of a spelling flame?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know perfectly well that "dialogue" is the correct spelling everywhere
>>>>>>> in the Anglosphere *except* in the USA. which insists on the simplified
>>>>>>> spelling "dialog". I know and use both spellings. I just happened to
>>>>>>> use the American spelling today. So what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The dialogue in the first SW was laughable ...enjoyable only because
>>>>>> one could think the corn tongue-in-cheek, rather than the solemn
>>>>>> myth-making it turns out was intended.  The actors themselves were
>>>>>> astonished.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.  How Cowboys and Indians in Space got to the level of hype it
>>>>> has is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>> STARSHIP TROOPERS was another universally popular movie that seems to
>>>> have evoked such a sharply schizoid audience reaction, with each of the
>>>> two camps finding the other's take inexplicable.
>>>
>>> There are those who think Paul Verhoeven knows what he’s doing and then
>>> there are the rest of us who are correct.
>>
>> Sharon Stone thinks he knew what he was doing...
> 
> Hahahahahahaha
> 
> Thus proving my point completely!
> 
> The woman who insisted on continuing to claim she’d been in Mensa, even
> after Mensa came out and called her a liar publicly.
> 
> A good friend of mine who was at the time of Disney story artist got
> dragged to a party after work on a Friday night. He entered this big house
> and finds the walls all lined with posters for Verhoven movies. Yes, he was
> at a party at Verhoeven‘s house.
> 
> Now he and I had had many long discussions about Verhoven. He thought
> Verhoven was a genius and I thought Verhoeven didn’t speak English well
> enough to understand what he was doing. That he thought stuff like starship
> troopers was a straightforward action film, and not an absurdist comedy.
> 
> so my buddy calls me about two in the morning when he gets home and says
> “oh my God you were right. He oesn’t have the slightest idea what he’s
> doing his success has all been blind luck“

Well, *somebody* with wit had to have been behind it.  That much 
tongue-in-cheek can't have been accidental.  Fwiw, the Internet seems 
rather definite that Verhoeven (a dedicated Liberal) was satirizing.