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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Man strikes back against Seaside California order with boat mural
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 17:47:01 -0400
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On 5/14/2024 1:41 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v1ujru$3uc8o$2@dont-email.me>,
>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/13/2024 7:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v1u6on$3o2h8$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <v1u2m7$3n232$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>     moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 5:04 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 20:49:19 -0000 (UTC)
>>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that Seaside California is on the ocean and lots of
>>>>>>>> residents own boats?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A man had his boat on his property. He was told that municipal code
>>>>>>>> required him to install a 6 foot tall fence around it to comply with
>>>>>>>> code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He built the fence then painted a realistic mural of a boat on the
>>>>>>>> fence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Man strikes back against Seaside order with boat mural
>>>>>>>> by Torstein Rehn
>>>>>>>> KSBW-TV News Channel 8
>>>>>>>> Updated: 1:22 PM PDT May 13, 2024
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't see anything in the article explaining WHY he had to have a
>>>>>>> fence around his boat. Is this a case of "Because we said so!" or is
>>>>>>> there a sensible reason for the policy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the fence he built, it's brilliant! We should all do that when
>>>>>>> faced with unjust laws and rules: either fight them (if we can) or mock
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A mural of a boat is likely less of an eyesore than an actual boat.  And
>>>>>> if somehow it weren't, it probably runs afoul of other community codes.
>>>>>
>>>>> But community codes are subordinate to the 1st Amendment. A boat isn't
>>>>> speech but a mural of a boat *is* speech and community codes will have
>>>>> to do a lot of heavy lifting to overcome the law's heavy presumption in
>>>>> favor of protecting speech.
>>>>
>>>> In this instance, the mural would seem to be "speech" only to the extent
>>>> that it argues against the ordinance it's responding to.
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter why it's speech or what it's trying to say. The
>>> government isn't allowed to restrict speech based on content or the
>>> speaker's message.
>>
>> Your 3-year-old's random finger-painting isn't "speech".
> 
> It is with regard to government censorship. Even 3-year-olds have rights.

Of course it isn't, assuming he used more than his middle finger.