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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Thu, 16 May 2024 15:37:28 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

Let's properly cite the article plagarized by Ubi the shithead, shall we?

Republican-Led State Finds Over 100 Non-Citizens On Voter Rolls,
Requests Citizenship Data From Biden Admin
By Zach Jewell
The Daily Wire
May 15, 2024
https://www.dailywire.com/news/republican-led-state-finds-over-100-non-citizens-on-voter-rolls-requests-citizenship-data-from-biden-admin

"Over 100 Non-Citizens On Voter Rolls"; this would be statewide in all
of Ohio. No one is trying to steal an election.

He requested the Social Security database. The asshole ALREADY has access
to it under existing federal law, so it sure sounds like he was failing
to check applications using SSNs (last four digits) against the database.

The error is in his own procedures.

In my state, there is a state-wide vital statistics register. Replacement
birth certificates are issued through the state register, no longer the
local board of health or county clerk. This means it's possible to check
the birth certificate durimg the voter registration process of someone
born in the state later registering to vote in the state. That's proof
of citizenship.

>>Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) told The Daily Mail, "Without the verification measures 
>>in the SAVE Act, we're basically asking people who are already breaking the 
>>law by coming to the US illegally to abide by the honor system. No way; 
>>American elections should belong to American citizens, period."

>Why is it unjust to insist on ID when one is registering to vote?

You failed to quote the portion of the article you are commenting on.

>>Last week, House Republicans introduced the Safeguard American Voter
>>Eligibility (SAVE) Act, which would require documentation proving U.S.
>>citizenship from anyone who registers to vote in U.S. elections.
>>Currently, under the 1993 Voter Registration Act, people are only
>>required to fill out a form swearing they are U.S. citizens and are
>>not required to provide documentation, USA Today reported.

The name of the act is wrong. It's the National Voter Registration Act
of 1993 (Motor Voter).

I just explained all this earlier in the thread. When registering to
vote, yes, the applicant swears that he is a citizen. This was true
under state law prior to this federal legislation. In my state prior to
implementation of this federal law, the applicant was registered by a
deputy of the county clerk (or township clerk or city clerk) or deputy
registrar. The deputy registrar was a citizen who was part of a group
that was a civic organization that registered voters. The deputy would
fill out the form and register the voter. He was obligated to return the
form to the county clerk within a couple of days, otherwise the voter
was registered but his paperwork wouldn't end up with election judges at
the polling place.

Once states implemented Motor Voter procedures, it all changed. The
voter filled out the application himself but wasn't registered to vote.
This was handled in back office by the county clerk who was supposed to
find the applicant in either the driver's license database or the 
Social Security database.

There is no honor system. The person isn't registered under Motor Voter
if he isn't found in one of the two databases. Both driver's license
and Social Security require submission of the birth certificate, which
proves citizenship.

>When I voted in the last election (remember I'm a Canadian) I brought
>my voter card showing where to vote + my drivers' licence. I saw other
>people with various other kinds of ID - they were flexible on what ID
>they would accept but they DID require some sort of ID.

You didn't bring your birth certificate, so everybody should be
screaming and yelling that your citizenship claim was unverified.

>After I voted I asked how many people were registered to vote from my
>address - then explained that my wife had passed away since the last
>election... (they seemed unhelpful until I mentioned that and said
>"are there two or three? there WERE three in the last election, now
>only two" and they did say two so I thanked them and went on my way.