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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Oxford Music Professors: Sheet Music is White Supremacy
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 15:46:16 -0400
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On 5/18/2024 1:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v2akce$2roir$1@dont-email.me>,
>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/18/2024 12:09 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On May 17, 2024 at 6:43:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 00:42:52 -0700
>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    On Thu, 16 May 2024 13:09:59 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>    >Yes, and because the current system isn't a dream for sight-readers,
>>>>>    >that means it's a racist form of white supremacy.
>>>>>    >
>>>>>    >(Because only white people can sight read perfectly or something.)
>>>>>    >
>>>>>    ><rolls eyes>
>>>>>    
>>>>>    I'm pretty sure there were and are a few black musicians who have
>>>>>    managed the feat and somehow a lot of the concert pianists these days
>>>>>    are of Asian origin...
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't expect that to continue if I were you.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, Asian musicians expressed concerns that they
>>>> weren't getting performance gigs as white musicians and attributed this
>>>> to race. To address that, all or most auditions for orchestras started
>>>> being done behind screens so that the judges could only hear the
>>>> performance but not see the performer. But apparently Asians are now
>>>> seen as white or white allies and a certain group of people who I'll
>>>> call People of Darker Colour (PODC) are demanding that they simply be
>>>> given positions on orchestras without auditioning because they have
>>>> been discriminated against in the past. I assume they're proposing some
>>>> kind of quota system but I'm not sure what percentage of the slots
>>>> they're demanding.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I don't know if this proposal is finding any support among the
>>>> people who decide these things but, given the way things are going in
>>>> general, I would be surprised if this was NOT done. Competence is going
>>>> out of the window to be replaced by hiring on the basis of skin colour.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure the usual suspects will be along momentarily to deny all of
>>>> this and/or defend it.
>>>
>>> Yes, during the height of the Saint Floyd of Fentanyl riots, where
>>> literally everything in America was discovered to be racist, there was
>>> an article in the New York Times that asserted that the blind audition
>>> system used by most professional orchestras and ensembles was racist
>>> because it *prevents* racial bias in the hiring process.
>>>
>>> The 'problem' is that when musicians play behind a screen and the judges
>>> have no idea who the person is, what race they are, what gender they are,
>>> etc., it takes away the judge's ability to racially discriminate. This
>>> used to be considered a good thing, but in today's woke world, the
>>> inability to racially discriminate (i.e., give preference to blacks over
>>> whites) is a major problem that needs fixing. Blind auditions tend to
>>> result in orchestras being problematically white and Asian. When pure
>>> talent and ability are the only factors available upon which to base a
>>> decision, the resulting orchestras aren't 'diverse' enough for the
>>> intelligentsia.
>>>
>>> So now, rather than blind auditions, the wokesters want to remove that
>>> screen so the judges see the players, can actively discriminate against
>>> whites and Asians, and make hiring decisions based on race and gender,
>>> rather than ability to play the music.
>>>
>>> Anyone who thinks a level playing field and the elimination of racial
>>> discrimination is the goal of the modern 'progressive'... well, I have a
>>> few bridges to sell them.
>>>
>>> And with all the hand-wringing over how they needed to get rid of blind
>>> auditions so that they can 'fix' the problem of too many white classical
>>> musicians, there strangely was no plan to 'fix' the problem of too many
>>> black basketball players (or any recognition that it even is a problem
>>> in the first place). Wonder why that is?
>>
>> In so many words, you're complaining about 'affirmative action' as
>> though it were a moral absurdity. Does that sum up your view?
> 
> I'm complaining about making an orchestra less than world class so that
> you can pat yourself on the back for sticking it to whitey.
> 
> Yes. Giving someone a seat on stage for any other reason than that they
> can do the job is morally abhorrent. I'm not surprised you cheerlead for
> it.
> 
> Of course Asians are historically oppressed minorities, too, and they
> somehow manage to not only make it into these ensembles on sheer talent
> and merit alone, but dominate them. Weird how that's not seen as a
> 'diversity' success but a problem that needs 'fixing'.

But the issue in question is 'affirmative action', i.e.: procedural bias 
meant to hasten the homogenization of an artificially bifurcate society.