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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 22:00:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <v2ovs1$258dt$1@dont-email.me> References: <v1loc6$1gcqh$2@dont-email.me> <DYt%N.156465$gF_b.96561@fx17.iad> <v1lvac$1hv9j$1@dont-email.me> <h45v3j9cjvnfl4ead0nbk52gqjtluvtigr@4ax.com> <v2lm37$1blem$3@dont-email.me> <alpu4jh5d5e3emkpq4pkp80ljfi03rpmni@4ax.com> <YbK3O.4973$aAQc.3464@fx16.iad> <v2ofu5$1v1s9$2@dont-email.me> <v2op2d$20c0h$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 05:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="aad696ffeaf1454c29b72c70b7b583cc"; logging-data="2269629"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1958kvHZxHjylMWRXL9SJ+7v32japsnmPs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:E87Sek11uyCBzriA7cthoBo6lAs= In-Reply-To: <v2op2d$20c0h$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3105 On 5/23/2024 8:04 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 5/23/2024 3:28 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> On 5/23/2024 11:31 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: >>>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:55:03 -0500, Lynn McGuire >>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> BTW, I suspect that USA Social Security will be means tested in the >>>>> not=20 >>>>> too distant future. The means testing will be whether or not you >>>>> own a=20 >>>>> home. >>>> >>>> /That/ will piss off a lot of people. At last! An issue the 1%-ers and >>>> the home-owning lesser mortals can agree on! >>> >>> Lynn pulled that out of his posterior. There hasn't even been any >>> rational discussion of means testing outside of SSI (Suplementary >>> Security Income). >>> >>> And when it has been brought up, >>> >>> "Proposals to 'means-test' Social Security - by cutting benefits for >>> higher-income retirees - wouldn't save significant money unless they >>> cut benefits for middle-class retirees as well; such measures would >>> also pose high administrative costs." >>> >>> ... >>> >>> "These facts argue for addressing Social Security's financing >>> shortfall >>> primarily through revenue increases - a position that the >>> majority of >>> people in the United States strongly support." >>> >>> https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/social-security-benefits-are-modest >>> >>> Not likely to happen. >> >> Time will tell. The horizon is short, 2019 at the latest with the USA >> running a $4 trillion deficit this year. >> > So Social Security collapsed five years ago? ARGH ! Sure, we just don't know it yet. Grin. Let's try 2029. Lynn