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From: Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Apple needs to explain that bug that resurfaced deleted photos
Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 19:46:47 -0500
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badgolferman wrote:
> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>> It's no longer shocking how ignorant the Apple religious zealots are, so
>> here are just a few search terms for all the cases Apple lost that the
>> ignorant Apple religious zealots haven't heard about - but which everyone
>> else knows about since every one was discussed in this very newsgroup.
>>
>> For example:
>>   <https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-becerra-announces-113-million-multistate-settlement-against>
>>   "Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate
>>    Settlement Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries
>>    and Performance Throttling"
>>
>>   *France: Watchdog Agency Fines Apple for Deceitful Practice*
>>   <https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-02-28/france-watchdog-agency-fines-apple-for-deceitful-practice/>
>>   "HOP accused Apple of intentionally causing older iPhone models to
>>    slow down in order to push owners to replace them with newer models."
>>
>>   *Apple Settles with French Authorities over 25 Million Fine*
>>   <https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2020/03/apple-settles-with-french-authorities-over-25-mill>
>>   "Under French law, using misleading commercial practices
>>    is a criminal offense."
>>
>>   *Apple pays out over claims it deliberately slowed down iPhones*
>>   <https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67911517>
>>   "The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed
>>    a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had
>>    deliberately (and secretly!) slowed down some iPhones."
>>
>>   *France hits Apple with $27 million fine over the battery issue *
>>   <https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-battery-life-leads-to-27-million-fine-against-apple-in-france/>
>>   "Along with the fine, the agency is also compelling Apple on its
>>    website in France to display a notice telling consumers that the
>>    company has been found to have engaged in deceptive commercial
>>    practice by omission regarding the software updates starting with
>>    iOS 10.2.1 that throttled iPhone 6ขs, as well as the iPhone SE
>>    and iPhone 7."
>>
>> Jolly Roger wrote on 26 May 2024 18:50:00 GMT :
>>> Both sides settled amicably...
>>
>> Since Apple was guilty, a billion dollars in penalties was the best they
>> could get, so, yeah, sure, I'd be amicable if I got a billion from Apple.
>>
>>> and Apple admitted no wrongdoing...
>>
>> Ah, but Apple did in the French criminal case where part of the agreement
>> was Apple had to publicly admit they were sorry for a month, Jolly ROger.
>>
>>> which
>>> means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for
>>> billions of dollars.
>>
>> The total is well over billions of dollars that Apple lost, Jolly Roger.
>>   
>>> He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it
>>> without question.
>>
>> Apple's losses in recent lawsuits is well over billions of dollars.
>>
>>>> [1 quoted line suppressed]
>>>
>>> Nope. The overwhelming majority of these lawsuits were settled amicably
>>> by both sides, with Apple admitting no wrongdoing - nobody lost those
>>> cases - they were settled.
>>
>> They had Apple over the legal barrel given how guilty Apple was, so, yeah,
>> sure, they were happy to get billions of dollars in penalties from Apple.
>>
>>>> [1 quoted line suppressed]
>>>
>>> Nope, Apple mentioned the power management feature in the release notes.
>>
>> It's not surprising that you ignorant Apple religious zealots are
>> completely unaware of the separate lawsuits (which were combined) from
>> dozens of state attorneys general that Apple also lost, mainly because
>> Apple got caught separately secretly backdating those release notes.
>>
>> That one act of secretly backdating the release notes cost Apple millions
>> of dollars in penalties - which - again - the attorneys general were happy
>> to amicably extract from Apple given how guilty Apple was in doing that.
>>
>>>> [1 quoted line suppressed]
>>>
>>> Nope, the release notes are public, right on their website.
>>
>> And yet, Apple clearly got caught secretly backdating the mention of the
>> throttling, Jolly Roger. The fact you're unaware of what everyone else is
>> well aware of (given it was a separate court case) is no longer shocking.
>>
>>> Nope, and you can't cite this supposed lie, because it doesn't exist.
>>
>> It's a separate court case, Jolly Roger. Which you're ignorant of.
>>>
>>>> [1 quoted line suppressed]
>>>
>>> Nope, there were no criminal cases resulting from this performance
>>> management feature which still exists in every iPhone sold today.
>>
>> Heh heh heh... The French criminal case is well known, Jolly Roger.
>> It's no longer shocking how ignorant all you Apple religious zealots are.
>>
>>> Nope, untrue. Apple settles a lot of them amicably though - while
>>> admitting no wrongdoing.
>>
>> It's no longer shocking that you Apple religious zealots think paying over
>> a billion dollars in penalties means Apple did nothing wrong, Jolly Roger.
>>
> 
> If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying
> lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than giving it to the
> government and looking guilty.
> 

Information about apple's lawsuits is not needed, and nobody wants it.