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From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com>
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Subject: Re: Students go after the hypocrites
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:42:43 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 10:39:06 -0700, john larkin wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
>>> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for
>>>>>>> electronics design discussions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics
>>>>> designs?
>>>>
>>>>My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this
>>>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design
>>>>becomes off-topic and deprecated.
>>> 
>>> It was declining anyhow.
>>
>>I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30
>>years and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then.
>>
>>> I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic
>>> design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder.
>>> I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask
>>> them to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider.
>>> 
>>> 10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage
>>> across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious.
>>
>>You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS??
> 
> Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't remember
> that equation."
> 
> A  fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project.
> 
> I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter follower.
> Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that!
> 
> 
> 
>>> I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw
>>> 23 computer screens and one oscilloscope.
>>
>>Oh dear.
>>
>>> If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best.
>>> 
>>> It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like
>>> about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long
>>> to find out if it does.
>>
>>My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this
>>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI,
>>this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace
>>and I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump
>>doesn't win come November.
> 
> There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right
> fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less
> tribalism and a little common sense.

That's definitely *not* the vibe I'm sensing from my present perspective 
outside of the country.