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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per
 advice from the NSA today
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 07:17:46 -0000 (UTC)
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Peter <confused@nospam.net> wrote:
> Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>>>>> which Google & Apple both have a vested
>>>>> interest in making easily trackable by not allowing you to keep them off.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you cite a reliable source for this?
>>> 
>>> Not only is it well known information, but there were already reliable
>>> sources previously cited in this very thread by Newyana2, which you
>>> shouldn't be asking me to repeat just because you didn't bother to look.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think that's a reasonable question. I can turn off my
>> Android cellphone, and I do. If it's really true that phones
>> are now being made that can't be powered down, that's
>> shocking and nonsensical. Not that I don't believe it, but
>> I'd like to know the facts one way or the other. If that's really
>> the case then I suppose the only way to stop tracking
>> would be too keep the phone in something like a metal
>> cigarette case.
> 
> There are two issues that are moving in the wrong direction for privacy
> which we have to take separately, but which both Apple & Google benefit
> from by not allowing you to be safe from their tracking activities.
> 
> 1. The phones still track even when you think you've turned them off.

That's a user convenience to be able to find lost or stolen devices. Hugely
beneficial. 

> 2. The bluetooth radios turn back on despite you turning them off.

Not true on ios. You can turn it off permanently.