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Subject: Re: Do you condemn Hamas?
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:53:35 -0000 (UTC)
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On Fri, 07 Jun 2024 19:37:04 -0700, john larkin wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 22:11:58 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message
>>news:fle76jld4pj0rj412uv49jjfe4grpupa44@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 21:18:20 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:dq976jlhrp1puom0ha9ogpte8aniroj94i@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:25:36 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:02:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> martyrs. So for Hamas, killing is always win-win.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor
>>>>>>>>>>>> hell.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious
>>>>>>>>>>>> brainwashing. There is no afterlife. There is only this life.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't waste it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature
>>>>>>>>>>> of consciousness, you can't know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
>>>>>>>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else
>>>>>>>>>>> would morality and justice come from?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings
>>>>>>>>>>> about proper behavior to others. Obviously, there are
>>>>>>>>>>> different religions with, possibly, genetic components.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than
>>>>>>>>>>> atheists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Better cooks too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
>>>>>>>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
>>>>>>>>>> many people never get over it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
>>>>>>>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual
>>>>>>>>>> benefit.
>>>>>>>>>> Religion never even comes into it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
>>>>>>>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's pretty much my experience too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative,
>>>>>>>>who has no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think
>>>>>>>>women shouldn't vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't
>>>>>>>>like the fuckers."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have lots of relatives in Mass and have spent many months of my
>>>>>>> life in NYC and Vermont
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would I be correct in thinking that you've never been outside the
>>>>>>USA except perhaps for a short vacation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have spend a few months in France and a month working in Moscow.
>>>>> Some weeks working in England, in Oxford, and a few weeks vacatining
>>>>> in Ireland. Some time in Hamamatsu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Alaska and Hawaii don't count.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never encountered the sort of nastiness that other people
>>>>> seem to have. Most people are friendly and decent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Well your response to my reference to https://russell-j.com/0464NP.HTM
>>>>was pretty nasty in my view.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> BR is dead, so I didn't offend him.
>>
>>I don't think he would have been offended even if he were still alive.
>>https://www.google.com/search?
q=bertrand+russell+message+to+future+generations
>>
>>
>>> He sounded smug and nasty to me.
>>
>>But did you take a moment to take in anything he said? Or did you just
>>let your emotional hormones get the better of your neurones like the
>>rest of us are capable of doing at times?
>>
>>
>>> 
>>
> I read the essay, and some others of his.
> 
> He did have a good attitude towards women.

So did this fellow:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/07/david-carrick-jailed-life-
rapes-met-police-officer

;-)