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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:54:32 -0400
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"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:qfog6jlbitiaa0e72tldls0jhkd5f4q1cr@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 07:30:07 -0700, Don Y
> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 6/11/2024 3:50 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2024 02:29, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/24 19:13, john larkin wrote:
>>>>> The British plugs and outlets are enormous too.
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea of a fuse in the plug end of the cord.
>>>>
>>>> I'm only aware of that for Christmas lights in the U.S.A.
>>>>
>>>> The Christmas lights show that small fuses can fit in a slightly larger plug
>>>> and not require anything nearly as large as European plugs that I've seen
>>>> pictures / video of.
>>
>>XMAS lights are fused because they can be daisy-chained; the next strand
>>plugged into the end of the previous strand.  As such, the strand closest
>>to the mains outlet sees the total load of all strands.  Expecting consumers
>>to observe the limit of 3 strands is wishful thinking.  So, a 5A fuse in
>>every plug ensures that whichever strand is "first" will open.
>>
>>Similarly, expecting consumers to consider each of the individual loads they
>>plug into a 99c 18AWG extension cord is wishful thinking.
>>
>>> Fuses in plugs is a UK thing. Continental 3 pin plugs are every bit as brutal
>>> in shape as UK plugs but are unfused. Continental 2 pin is pretty similar size
>>> to US except with round pins 230vac rather than flat ones.
>>
>>US plugs (for consumer use) tend to be really poorly made.
>
> But are perfectly reliable.

Well of course they're perfectly reliable John.
It follows from the fact that anything made/used in the US can't possibly be less perfect than that which is used elsewhere.

>