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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:53:08 -0500
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On 6/12/2024 9:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/12/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 9:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/12/24 10:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/2024 8:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:37 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 7:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. The concept and definition of natural numbers exist, but 
>>>>>>> doesn't derive from any part of the "universe".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note, they don't "exist" as a substance, only as a concept, and 
>>>>>>> the universe is substance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OF EVERYTHING IF THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES AN EXPRESSION
>>>>>> OF LANGUAGE X TRUE THENN (THEN AND ONLY THEN) X HAS NO TRUTH-MAKER.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how can we tell that there is nothing that makes the expression 
>>>>> of language true?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What makes the expression: "a frog" true?
>>>
>>> I don't know, what makes the expression: "a frog" true?
>>>
>>> It could be if put besides the picture of a frog, or a cage holding 
>>> one, or a box with a disection kit.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean that Russel's Teapot has a truth-maker, because we can 
>>>>> not show that there is nothing that makes it true?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Truth need not be known.
>>>
>>> Then why do you insisit it must be provable?
>>>
>>>> If of EVERYTHING there is NOTHING that makes an expression
>>>> of language X true then X is untrue.
>>>
>>> Does that only include things in that universe, or of any universe?
>>>
>>
>> I changed my freaking words because you had trouble with the other
>> words. WHEN I CHANGE THE WORDS TO MAKE THEM CLEARER I AM NOT FREAKING
>> USING THE ORIGINAL FREAKING WORDS.
>>
> 
> And thus show that you don't have the mental ability to properly 
> communicate.
> 

That is your excuse for not freaking paying attention?
IT WAS YOU THAT DID NOT PAY ATTENTION.

I changed the words in my paper based on your feedback.
I have always used the term UNIVERSE to exactly mean EVERYTHING.

If of EVERYTHING there is NOTHING that makes an expression
of language X true then X is untrue.


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer