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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:10:17 -0400
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On 6/16/2024 5:06 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 6/15/24 7:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>   trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   From wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories
>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA
>>>>> firearms and include the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> Machine guns
>>>>>       "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be 
>>>>> readily
>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual
>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also
>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed
>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed
>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and
>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if
>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a 
>>>>> person."[10]
>>>>
>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is
>>>> patently obvious.  Not exactly a triumph of sanity.
>>>
>>>
>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more
>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law
>>
>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again!
>>
>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be
>> yet again.
>>
>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of
>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we
>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative
>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and
>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece
>> of software.
>>
>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then
>> none of that would be necessary.
>>
>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to
>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb
>> your ego and jump to your IQ.
> 
> 
> I'm going to cut you some slack here Twat.  Ordinarily I would respond 
> with you being a dickless stupid white supremacist bastard, but instead 
> I'm going to respond what I just posted to the group, Harvard Law 
> professor and Constitutional Scholar Laurence Tribe's tweet on the subject:
> 
> 
> The 1934 Firearms Act bans civilian ownership of a “machine gun,” 
> defined as a weapon that can fire “automatically more than one shot, 
> without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.” 26 U. S. 
> C. §5845(b). A semi-automatic weapon requires the shooter to pull the 
> trigger after each shot, but a weapon modified with a bump stock does 
> not. “As long as the shooter keeps his trigger finger on the finger rest 
> and maintains constant forward pressure on the rifle’s barrel or front 
> grip, the weapon will fire continuously.” See 83 Fed. Reg. 66516.
> But six Justices who will soon have blood-soaked robes overrode the 
> ATF’s common sense conclusion that keeping pressure on your trigger 
> finger long enough for your gun to fire 13 times PER SECOND is a “single 
> function” as Congress used that term. The fact that the six were taking 
> aim at the administrative state and not at those whom the next crazed 
> shooter will kill by firing 800 rounds per minute with each pull of his 
> trigger finger may enable them to sleep at night, but it shouldn’t.
> 
> 
> Prof. Tribe said this so well I was in awe, and that doesn't happen 
> much.  You can crawl back into the woodwork now unless you have some 
> more verbal vomit you want to share.

So, with a "machine gun", you don't have to keep your finger on the 
trigger ...whereas, with a bump stock, if you remove your finger the gun 
stops firing, i.e., what we call (as it were) a "dead man's switch"...