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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:28:04 -0400
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On 6/18/2024 9:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <v4t1nu$1ig6v$2@dont-email.me>,
>   moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/18/2024 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <v4s1kl$1c3jr$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/15/24 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>>>>     trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     From wiki:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories
>>>>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA
>>>>>>>> firearms and include the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Machine guns
>>>>>>>>         "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be
>>>>>>>>    readily
>>>>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual
>>>>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also
>>>>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed
>>>>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed
>>>>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and
>>>>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if
>>>>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a
>>>>>>>> person."[10]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is
>>>>>>> patently obvious. Not exactly a triumph of sanity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more
>>>>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again!
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be
>>>>> yet again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of
>>>>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we
>>>>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative
>>>>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and
>>>>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece
>>>>> of software.
>>>>>
>>>>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then
>>>>> none of that would be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to
>>>>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb
>>>>> your ego and jump to your IQ.
>>>>>
>>>> And how does using a bump stock differ from a fully automatic machine gun?
>>>
>>> With a bump stock, for every round fired, a separate trigger pull occurs.
>>>
>>> With a machine gun, one one trigger pull is required to fire multiple
>>> rounds.
>>>
>>> Also, the rate of fire of a bump stock-equipped rifle is significantly
>>> slower than a rifle firing on full-auto.
>>
>> So, this 15-sec. video is a lie?
>>
>>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brrecvXhRVc
> 
> I don't know what you're talking about. You can clearly see the bump
> device using the recoil (and Newton's Third Law) to reset the trigger
> after every round.

What I'm seeing is a NOT "significantly slower" rate of fire.