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From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com>
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Subject: Re: Chinese semiconductors
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john
>>>>larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote in
>>>><9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese-
>>semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap
>>>>>>>plications
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good grief. Crazy numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like a normal ratio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>RL
>>>>>
>>>>>The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor companies
>>>>>in one year is absurd.  It's the same corrupt fad dynamics as the
>>>>>Chinese real-estate scam.
>>>>>
>>>>>Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient.
>>>>
>>>>I do not see it that way.
>>>>Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing
>>>>Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space,
>>>>... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds.
>>> 
>>> Airbus planes have killed people too.
>>> 
>>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system
>>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced by
>>>>the same US,
>>>>worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers
>>>>from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit
>>>>airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, more
>>>>than a third world country,
>>>>a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,...
>>>>A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally
>>>>corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it.
>>>>An IQ that gete lower and lower...
>>>>dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing
>>>>>electronics.
>>>>>The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of
>>>>>which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and
>>>>>Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually
>>>>>make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have
>>>>>no original ideas, and fail.
>>>>
>>>>The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist.
>>>>West coast was always part of China  :-)
>>>>More info in 'planets of the apes'
>>>>
>>>>US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese products
>>>>and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, better
>>>>just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers directly...
>>>>Even better have them make products that benefit people.
>>>>That will save lives worldwide covid makers!!
>>>>
>>>>US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that...
>>>>
>>>>Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club,
>>>>Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How are your Russian lessons coming along?
>>
>>Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and
>>unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though.
> 
> We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is
> millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too.

+1.
This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people 
will find it *very* persuasive.