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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Ben agrees that Sipser approved criteria is met Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:04:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v5mcc9$1cgj0$2@i2pn2.org> References: <v45tec$4q15$1@dont-email.me> <v4sa0h$1dk9i$3@dont-email.me> <v4sci6$1ebce$1@dont-email.me> <v4sd35$1eb2f$5@dont-email.me> <v4u3jl$1se49$1@dont-email.me> <v4umvh$1vpm0$7@dont-email.me> <v50d8k$2e51s$1@dont-email.me> <v50dtp$2e5ij$1@dont-email.me> <v51f4t$2k8ar$1@dont-email.me> <v51ge4$2kbbe$2@dont-email.me> <v539bk$329sv$1@dont-email.me> <v53upb$35vak$6@dont-email.me> <v575pl$3sg5p$1@dont-email.me> <v5767s$3soh6$1@dont-email.me> <v5e28t$11urb$5@i2pn2.org> <v5eg03$1ikpr$2@dont-email.me> <v5eho7$24l4$1@news.muc.de> <87jzidm83f.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v5el8c$24l4$4@news.muc.de> <v5evoi$1lgoi$1@dont-email.me> <v5frvn$14bcm$6@i2pn2.org> <v5ft1p$1uc3o$2@dont-email.me> <v5fu24$14bcn$2@i2pn2.org> <v5fuf7$1up2o$1@dont-email.me> <v5gk7m$22b20$1@dont-email.me> <v5h3aj$24jbd$5@dont-email.me> <v5j4p0$2ksq3$1@dont-email.me> <v5jrrq$2o58l$4@dont-email.me> <v5k0ru$2q29e$1@dont-email.me> <v5k5ko$2qsdr$1@dont-email.me> <v5lsba$38t1k$1@dont-email.me> <v5mb0p$3b1p0$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:04:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1458784"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2624 Lines: 18 Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:40:57 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/28/2024 3:30 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-06-27 16:56:56 +0000, olcott said: > Deciders are always asked a yes/no question of their > inputs in their own native language. Yes, and the question here is „Does the input halt?” and not „Do I simulate this to halt?”. >>> Instead everyone here expects that the halt decider must map >>> to the English description of what the authors of textbooks >>> expect it to map to. Naturally. Why should it not work as defined. > Everyone that states an opinion says that the decider > must go by the textbook definitions of the problem thus > not the problem instance actually encoded by the input. That IS the instance encoded by the input. We call H with DDD, not H with H(DDD).