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Subject: Re:  Ben agrees that Sipser approved criteria is met
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:04:09 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:40:57 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 6/28/2024 3:30 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-06-27 16:56:56 +0000, olcott said:

> Deciders are always asked a yes/no question of their
> inputs in their own native language.
Yes, and the question here is „Does the input halt?” and not „Do I
simulate this to halt?”.

>>> Instead everyone here expects that the halt decider must map
>>> to the English description of what the authors of textbooks
>>> expect it to map to.
Naturally. Why should it not work as defined.

> Everyone that states an opinion says that the decider
> must go by the textbook definitions of the problem thus
> not the problem instance actually encoded by the input.
That IS the instance encoded by the input. We call H with DDD,
not H with H(DDD).