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Le 28/07/2024 à 20:10, Rich Ulrich a écrit :
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 14:57:29 +0100, Hibou wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I don't think it's peculiar to Asperger's or autism. People often
>> adopt positions without exploring them thoroughly, commit themselves,
>> and then feel obliged to defend that commitment, even when it turns out
>> they're wrong.
>>
>> It's not easy to admit one is wrong, but it has its advantages. It
>> brings discussion to a halt, instead of prolonging it embarrassingly,
>> and one gains Brownie points for valuing the truth.
> 
> Consider this combination:  Asserting something that is not true
> is LYING.  LYING is very bad, like, a bad sin. So one is careful
> in what one asserts.  And one does not want to admit to the
> sin of being wrong. This creates a certain internal conflict,
> because there is also the notion that a 'sin' should be something
> that was intentional; and the original mis-statement is not
> something that one regrets.

In Usenet forums, I don't think deliberate lying is much of a problem, 
but people are often mistaken. It's hard to admit that one is in error; 
it throws doubt on one's ability. Also, our beliefs are part of who we 
are; to let one go is to lose part of oneself.

> Bill (stats-resident Aspie) would justify his (very rare) backing
> down by asserting that there are two different 'cases' and he
> was thinking of the other (and more important, somehow) one.

Well, numerous authors - Overstreet and Carnegie, for instance - have 
written of how reluctant people are to change their minds - and not just 
autistic people. I expect all salesmen can tell tales about that (Dale 
Carnegie was one, of course).