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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict correctly is to say Halting, Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:30:47 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <v8fv5n$25l0a$4@dont-email.me> References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v8a2j5$u4t6$1@dont-email.me> <v8asse$12hr3$2@dont-email.me> <v8aukp$12grj$1@dont-email.me> <v8b00m$12ojm$1@dont-email.me> <v8bchs$15ai5$1@dont-email.me> <v8bh32$15une$1@dont-email.me> <d89f03c5a605f010ec3c83c50137b983dc85848e@i2pn2.org> <v8bl2j$16ibk$2@dont-email.me> <tiuiaj5jf0jqcfcfntko5hufisp8mb93bm@4ax.com> <v8bu91$18b7k$2@dont-email.me> <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com> <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me> <eefa5a7ed98b6dbdb82eede413b81fc726c94178@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 14:30:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3121e7e48560b53e45601f59b50fa691"; logging-data="2282506"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18AIpuRLMineL7GjPasGTsR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Cl/Bbxf67v37qpsYJMO2TK2iz9g= In-Reply-To: <eefa5a7ed98b6dbdb82eede413b81fc726c94178@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3055 On 8/1/2024 6:34 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/31/24 11:51 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote: >>> On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem. >>>> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined >>>> to be non halting. >>>> >>> >>> But how do you determine it is non-halting? >>> >>> As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!! >>> >> I have done this thousands of times and after someone >> has read these thousands of times they say that I never >> said it once. >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> } >> >> If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly >> reach its return instruction then it never halts. >> >> > > But only *IF* HHH *DOES* correctly emulate its input, which means it > can't abort its emulation, *No stupid it has never meant that* <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> *simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D* *until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never* *stop running unless aborted* </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer