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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:21:29 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <va6se9$cb8e$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <uvbfii$3mom0$1@news.xmission.com> <20240412094809.811@kylheku.com> <87il0mm94y.fsf@tudado.org> <way-20240413091747@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <87il0lldf8.fsf@tudado.org> <choices-20240413123957@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v9lm2k$12qhv$1@dont-email.me> <v9m4gd$14scu$1@dont-email.me> <20240815182717.189@kylheku.com> <v9npls$1fjus$1@dont-email.me> <v9t204$2dofg$1@dont-email.me> <va28pi$3dldm$1@dont-email.me> <va2ro9$3gd7v$1@dont-email.me> <va2vt0$3h3gj$1@dont-email.me> <va44rh$3p1l6$1@dont-email.me> <va45eq$3pkt9$1@dont-email.me> <va4aut$3q4g0$1@dont-email.me> <va4fbr$3qvij$1@dont-email.me> <va5108$3tmmd$1@dont-email.me> <va51ok$3tqr9$1@dont-email.me> <va5ec2$3vluh$1@dont-email.me> <va6q4g$c1a7$1@dont-email.me> <va6rpa$c6bg$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="542601cbb14dae1cdedf2a9298683fa1"; logging-data="404750"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/53h5z45vL5oJTfJ55TuB4" Cancel-Lock: sha1:hJzPdGQYhe/C2UXZSG0TTamKSRk= On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:10:18 +0200 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> boringly babbled: >On 22/08/2024 09:42, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote: >> Yes, its ultimately subjective. The reasons I don't like it are that I can't >> stand dynamic typing in supposed "proper" languages and the syntatically >> meaningful whitespace nonsense they took from Occam really grinds my gears. >> In my current job I'm forced to use it but I'd never do it out of choice. >> > >Dynamic typing has its advantages and disadvantages. You do lose a lot >of human checking and static checking when you have dynamic typing, but >you gain flexibility. Have you tried using type annotations in Python? No, i'll look into it, thanks. >I am a big fan of clear and consistent layout and indentation, which is >forced on you by Python (and Occam), but I too prefer explicit blocking. > It's harder to get things wrong with explicit blocking, and you are Indeed. You delete a bracket by mistake and it won't compile, end of. In Python you can delete a spaces/tabs by mistake and if its at the end of the block the thing could still run. >never faced with space vs. tab conflicts causing semantic changes to the >code. Yes, this is a royal PITA. I use tabs as in vim I can instantly change the indentation using "set ts=". With spaces its fixed short of dicking about with macros. >> IMO its fine for small scripts up to maybe a few hundred lines. Beyond that >> no. >> > >Oh, it's fine for /far/ bigger programs than that. But it is excellent As you said, opinions may differ.