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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: another hint of quantum consciousness
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:19:58 -0400
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"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:pc1eej9v5j8i25qm38l4jffodn7eb4c2f6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 23:28:40 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:kaicejdhq0cudpivno5qmtes8al3tu8hje@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 17:04:32 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:31kbejpg6dos3fdm81oq42a4rgcenu4lk1@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:36:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 9/14/24 17:13, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when
>>>>>>> an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I paraphrase: "Since we don't know how it works, it must be quantum".
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, more conventionally, "It can't be quantum because QM only works at
>>>>> liquid helium temperatures."
>>>>>
>>>>>>That's it then: Quantum-something is merely religion. The god of the
>>>>>>gaps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There's a lot of quantum nonsense about. This is just one example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, explain how we can name one image out of maybe a million stored
>>>>> images, in a fraction of a second.
>>>>
>>>>In a way which is similar to the way this does it.
>>>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=eiffel+tower&udm=2
>>>>Just in reverse.
>>>>So choose any of the above images and save it.
>>>>Now go here
>>>>https://images.google.com/
>>>>And upload the image and see how long it takes for the words "eiffel tower" to appear.
>>>>
>>>>Also it's possible you might not know the correct spelling.
>>>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=ifle+tower&udm=2
>>
>>Does the lack of response here mean that you agree that I provided a valid explanation of how
>>"we can name one image out of maybe a million stored images, in a fraction of a second." ?
>>
>>No-one is suggesting that Google does it exactly the same way the human brain does
>>but you asked for an explanation of how it is possible.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Face and voice recognition are similarly amazing.
>>>>
>>>>But it is becoming much easier to do them without a human brain as time goes by.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, the machines and the code that do google's image matching
>>> were designed by people.
>>>
>>
>>You mean like
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_Zero
>>is just code so all it can do is something like
>>if {player makes this move} then {respond with that move} ?
>>
>>If you're going to stick with the idea that something designed people then what designed the thing which designed people and what
>>designed the thing which designed the thing which designed people?
>>
>>What are you going to say when a thing designed by people becomes able to design electronic circuits better than you can?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I check up now and then on FLUX.AI,  just for fun.

I've never used it.
I have a general dislike of "sign up with Google" etc and pay a monthly subscription if you want anything worth using.
My last interaction with schematic/pcb software a few weeks ago was getting some Protel99SE files into KiCad.
That and simulating an LTC4267-3 circuit in LTSpice.

>
> A while back they were looking to hire a bunch of full-stack software
> types and one hardware intern.
>