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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: 1972 Legnano in the news
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 07:59:34 -0600
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On 11/10/2024 10:19 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 11/10/2024 10:23 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:05:15 -0600, AMuzi 
>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> What proportion of your own lifetime bicycle riding was
>>> under a brain bucket?
>>
>> I honestly don't know as I spent much of my military 
>> career "overseas"
>> where we were somewhat protected from local laws, if for 
>> no other
>> reason then that few of the local police spoke English :-) 
>> Then when I
>> retired I went back overseas to work and riding a bicycle 
>> on your
>> break was sort of "blah" and money was plentiful so take a 
>> taxi :-)
> 
> I don't think that was honest at all. What were the years 
> you did your bicycle riding? I'd assume most were before 
> 1980. Bike helmets (other than the rare racer's leather 
> strap kind) were almost nonexistent until 1980.
> 
>> Perhaps that is a solution. A state law that for anyone 
>> killed or
>> injured while riding a bicycle without a helmet any 
>> insurance policy
>> for medical care and/or death shall be deemed to be null 
>> and void.
> 
> Would that apply to _all_ victims of brain injury? Let's 
> recall that in the U.S., bicyclists comprise less than one 
> percent of fatal brain injuries. For serious but not fatal 
> brain injuries, the percentages probably aren't much different.
> 
> Falls when walking around the home are one of the top causes 
> of serious brain injuries. Riding in automobiles is also a 
> big cause, as are assaults. Bicycling is rarely mentioned as 
> a source in articles listing causes. See https:// 
> www.myshepherdconnection.org/abi/Introduction-to-Brain- 
> Injury/Statistics-and-Causes as an example.
> 
> And don't think that bicyclists are a significant portion of 
> the "falls" or "motor vehicle" categories. Here's a more 
> detailed table that deals with total (not just TBI) 
> fatalities. Note what a tiny portion bicyclists make up. 
> https://probablyhelpful.com/injury_death.htm
> 
> It's a propaganda generated myth that riding a bike is 
> likely to cause serious brain injury.
> 

In the morning news, another tragic sans-helmet death:

https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/nw-indiana-hunter-dies-in-tree-stand-fall

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971