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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:42:15 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vhkhun$28qt$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vgcs35$1fq8n$1@dont-email.me> <vgfepg$22hhn$1@dont-email.me> <vgg0ic$25pcn$1@dont-email.me> <vggai3$25spe$8@dont-email.me> <vgi0t7$2ji2i$1@dont-email.me> <vgiet5$2l5ni$1@dont-email.me> <vgl2hj$3794c$1@dont-email.me> <vgleau$bi0i$2@solani.org> <vgnq3i$3qgfe$1@dont-email.me> <vgoka6$3vg2p$1@dont-email.me> <vgq1cm$b5vj$1@dont-email.me> <vgq3ca$beif$1@dont-email.me> <vgsp1c$v1ss$1@dont-email.me> <vgsq2v$v5t1$1@dont-email.me> <vgvm6h$1k8co$1@dont-email.me> <vgvmvr$1kc5f$1@dont-email.me> <vh1vlb$25kic$1@dont-email.me> <vh2j89$29gco$1@dont-email.me> <vh4f7p$2o5hn$1@dont-email.me> <vh4job$2ov2c$1@dont-email.me> <vh78jp$3cbq7$1@dont-email.me> <vh7d5c$3cpaf$1@dont-email.me> <5b8de1bc-9f6c-4dde-a7cd-9e22e8ce19d9@att.net> <vhata3$59e5$2@dont-email.me> <31419fde-62b3-46f3-89f6-a48f1fe82bc0@att.net> <vhc77g$hdd4$1@dont-email.me> <476ae6cb-1116-44b1-843e-4be90d594372@att.net> <vhhr6f$1q0r9$1@dont-email.me> <ffa63cb5-8898-4aa7-80eb-8b2c51c9986d@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:42:15 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="10af3bc7caee4ceaa4972e93614969c0"; logging-data="74589"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18kghD3VscjAoCXtGBU6ulic52Q0xHvIaA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PyYRvwRJfDJQospe6Xcfn+xHrHA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ffa63cb5-8898-4aa7-80eb-8b2c51c9986d@att.net> Bytes: 4029 On 19.11.2024 17:26, Jim Burns wrote: > On 11/19/2024 6:01 AM, WM wrote: >> That implies that >> our well-known intervals > > Sets with different intervals are different. > Our sets do not change. The intervals before and after shifting are not different. Only their positions are. Is the set {1} different from the set {1} because they have different positions? Is the set {1} in 1, 2, 3, ... different from the set {1} in -oo, ..., -1, 0, 1,... oo? > Sets of our well.known.intervals > can match some proper supersets without growing They cannot match the rational numbers without covering the whole positive real line. That means the relative covering has increased from 1/5 to 1. > Relative covering isn't measure. It is a measure! For every finite interval between natural numbers n and m the covered part is 1/5. > You haven't defined 'relative covering'. > Giving examples isn't a definition. If you are really too stupid to understand relative covering for finite intervals, then I will help you. But I can't believe that it is worthwhile. Your only reason of not knowing it is to defend set theory which has been destroyed by my argument. > I claim that there are functions f:ℝ→ℝ > such that > ⟨ f(⅟1) f(⅟2) f(⅟3) ... ⟩ = > ⟨ ⅟5 ⅟5 ⅟5 ... ⟩ > and f(0) = 1 Not in case of geometric shifting. All definable intervals fail in all definable positions. > >> So you deny analysis or / and geometry. > > I deny what you think analysis and geometry are. > I accept infinite sets > and discontinuous functions Discontinuity is not acceptable in the geometry of shifting intervals. > What is it you (WM) accuse infinite sets of, > other than not being finite? Nothing against infinite sets. I accuse matheologians to try to deceive. > > Note: > An infinite set > can match some proper supersets without growing I have proven that this is nonsense. Regards, WM