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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:42:13 -0600
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On 3/4/2025 5:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/4/25 9:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/4/2025 6:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 3/3/25 10:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> int DD()
>>>> {
>>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> _DD()
>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>
>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>
>> *Proves that the input to HHH(DD) can be rejected as non-halting*
> 
> No, it proves that the HHH that rejects the input, didn't do a correct 
> simulation, and thus was looking at the wrong input, because you don't 
> understand what a program is.
> 
> DD only is non-halting if *THE* HHH (and there is only one at any time) 
> never aborts. SInce HHH musts abort its emulation to "reject" the input, 
> it proves it didn't do the needed correct emulation, and you are shown 
> to be just a blantant liar.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> And the HHH that correctly emulated DD, can't be a decider and answer.
>>>
>>> Also. "the HHH", defined in your Halt7.c doesn't do that, 
>>
>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>> own "ret" instruction.
>>
>> Failing to provide the above proves that you are clueless
>> about this code.
>>
>>
> Nope, I have shown why your logic is wrong, 

If that was true you could show this with
something besides rhetoric and double-talk.

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